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jimmyjet said:
just started watching red tails - this one went straight to the menu.

20th century fox
I don't know for sure but that might be due to that movie being owned by Lucasfilm and Fox just distributing it. LFL might have control over Fox putting trailers on the disc.
 
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looper - tristar pictures (sony) - ads

hang em high - 20th century fox, MGM - NO ADS

when harry met sally - 20th century fox, mgm - NO ADS

guilt trip - paramount - NO ADS

when a stranger calls and happy birthday to me - columbia - NO ADS

pawn - anchor bay - NO ADS

primal fear - paramount - NO ADS

casablanca - warner brothers - NO ADS

african queen - paramount - NO ADS

valkyrie - 20th century fox , mgm, sony - ads

sleeping with the enemy - 20th century fox - NO ADS

courage under fire - 20th century fox - NO ADS

changeling - universal - NO ADS

parental guidance - 20th century fox - NO ADS

fiddler on the roof - 20th century fox - NO ADS

chitty chitty bang bang - 20th century fox - NO ADS

tango and cash - warner brothers - ads

saturday night fever - paramount - NO ADS

lawrence of arabia - sony - NO ADS

butch cassidy - 20th century fox - NO ADS

good, bad, and the ugly - 20th century fox - ads

magnificent seven - 20th century fox - NO ADS

the island - paramount - NO ADS

scent of a woman - universal - NO ADS

think like a man - sony - ads
 

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these are all the blu-rays that i have.

as you can see, most of them do not have any ads.

so i guess when they do, it really bugs me !!!

from my list, sony is the only main culprit.

is fox really this much bigger than everyone else ? or am i just getting a very high percentage of them for some other reason ?
 

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Professor Echo said:
Actually, trailers were originally shown AFTER the movie, hence their name, "trailer."
I thought it was because the film was the last thing on the reel, hence "trailing" the feature. They could be removed and placed before the movie, along with the newsreels, cartoons, etc.
 

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Well, I wasn't there, Steve, haha, but it's my understanding that originally trailers ran after the main feature in order to immediately entice people to return.
 

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i went to the movie theaters quite a bit, as a kid in the '60s.

i am not 100% positive, but most of the time there would be 2 shows (double feature) that you got to see - unless the one show was very long.

and almost everyone would see both shows after paying for their ticket.

there definitely were "coming attractions". but sorta hard to say whether they came before or after the movie.

cuz i think they played in-between the movies.

for sure, they wanted to attract you back. but after each show, you would have people walking out, who had seen both shows. and people walking in, who were just arriving. and people coming back from the snack bar, who had seen one movie, but not the other.

so getting the people seated, QUIETED, etc. took some time.

so there was simply no way that the theater could start running one movie right after the last movie ended.

so they played coming attractions, a cartoon, or some short film, etc. while the audience got settled in for the next show.
 

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Richard V said:
Given the opportunity, someone is always gonna try and sell you something. It is amazing, in some places you can't even pump gas without being assaulted with commericialism in one way or another. I think it is a losing battle.
Pump gas? There are places you can't take a leak without having an ad in front of you. I've even seen ads with the urinal cake, though that position does give me the chance for a certain extra satisfaction beyond the required business!

PS. I also HATE commercials -- as distinguished from trailers -- at the movies. It's one reason I rarely go to a theater even when I'm interested in the film. When I do go, I take care to arrive several minutes late to miss any commercials.
 

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I can't think of a single disc where you have to watch the trailers. The Skip button usually works for me, and when it doesn't, the Home or Menu buttons do the trick. Why not find a way around the "problem" instead of threatening to not buy a particular studio's titles? Frankly, they aren't going to care is one person stops buying their stuff. And from what it looks like, jimmyjet...you're not exactly keeping them in business with BD's in your collection.
 

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my collection just started a few weeks ago. but i am slowing down, now.

however, i hope that neither you nor anyone else on the site takes your advice, although i know we all feel that way at some time.

alone, jimmy and jason dont amount to a hill of beans. it is when we act together, when it can make a difference.

just look at what has been happening with tv show releases. whenever amazoners are writing a lot of bad reviews about a product, it slows down sales a lot.

we are starting to see better releases, and re-releases of stuff they cheaped out on, previously.

however, i understand if this does not bug enough people that they choose not to do anything about it. but please dont take that stance on a general level.

and also dont forget that it is easier to stop something at its beginning stages than it is to wait until it has developed.

if we dont hurt them with our dollars, every studio will begin throwing ads and previews and what-not on their disks. they are not gonna turn their backs on a stream of revenue, if it does not hurt their sales.
 

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Huh? When I go to the movies, I like trailers. When I used to watch "live" TV shows, I liked seeing the trailers for next weeks episode. In fact, growing up, I used to record all episodes of Trek shows on VHS and put together a "trailer" tape once a year. I like them that much. So I don't see a problem with trailers before a movie on a BD or DVD. I just don't. If you can't skip them, THAT'S the problem. But they are skippable if you know how to use your equipment.

I'm not interested in raking the studios over the coals for putting trailers before the menus. I will rake a studio like Disney over the coals for not including the existing extras on some of their recent catalogue animated product. I will question how hard the folks at CBS worked to get the Enterprise trailers...they said they couldn't find all of them or good material, which I don't buy. I will question why the extended cut of Die Hard 4 wasn't included in the Die Hard package. I will question why it took so long for Universal to release United 93 on BD. I will question the wisdom of not including a 2D BD copy of Oz with the 3D package.

But trailers before a movie? Nope.
 

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jimmyjet said:
my collection just started a few weeks ago. but i am slowing down, now.

however, i hope that neither you nor anyone else on the site takes your advice, although i know we all feel that way at some time.

alone, jimmy and jason dont amount to a hill of beans. it is when we act together, when it can make a difference.

just look at what has been happening with tv show releases. whenever amazoners are writing a lot of bad reviews about a product, it slows down sales a lot.

we are starting to see better releases, and re-releases of stuff they cheaped out on, previously.

however, i understand if this does not bug enough people that they choose not to do anything about it. but please dont take that stance on a general level.

and also dont forget that it is easier to stop something at its beginning stages than it is to wait until it has developed.

if we dont hurt them with our dollars, every studio will begin throwing ads and previews and what-not on their disks. they are not gonna turn their backs on a stream of revenue, if it does not hurt their sales.
If you don't want to buy a Blu-ray (and clearly you don't) then don't. Don't try and stop others from doing so - some people like trailers, some don't. Few are forced and you can work around that as Jason suggests. You own about twenty Blu-rays. Be happy. You're slowing down your purchasing. Swell. You are clearly not that target audience and therefore the studios won't really care what you have to say, because your buying habits are way too small and won't be changing anytime soon. Your posts here border on the outré. :)
 

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haineshisway said:
If you don't want to buy a Blu-ray (and clearly you don't) then don't. Don't try and stop others from doing so - some people like trailers, some don't. Few are forced and you can work around that as Jason suggests. You own about twenty Blu-rays. Be happy. You're slowing down your purchasing. Swell. You are clearly not that target audience and therefore the studios won't really care what you have to say, because your buying habits are way too small and won't be changing anytime soon. Your posts here border on the outré. :)
regarding my buying habits, i purchase WAY MORE than the average person.

perhaps it is your posts that border on the extreme.
 

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First off, what others do with their monies is there personal business. You don't want to spend your monies because what studios are doing then go for it, but I can't stand it when others suggest what I should do with my money.

Secondly, for the general membership, if certain members are bothering you with their posts/threads then use the ignore feature on them and they simply disappear from your sight line.
 

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the key word here, is SUGGEST.

i already know about the ignore feature, and am currently using it with some posters.

someone posted that my posts were a bit extreme. i merely posted the same thing back. i was not complaining about this poster bothering me with his posts, and at least at this point, i have no desire to ignore this particular poster.

thank you for your suggestion.
 

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jimmyjet said:
and also dont forget that it is easier to stop something at its beginning stages than it is to wait until it has developed.

if we dont hurt them with our dollars, every studio will begin throwing ads and previews and what-not on their disks.
I'm lost here.

"beginning stages"?
"will begin throwing ads and previews..."?

And earlier, it was "stop the cancer before it begins" or something to that effect.

Did I just slip back twenty years in time? This DID start in the VHS era, did it not?

(Answer: Yes.)

I only have a handful of Blu-rays (out of the few thousand titles in my collection) that have unskippable crap when the disc loads. Really, maybe half a dozen in all. Do I hate that? Yes. Who are the offenders? I think Lionsgate's Studio Canal releases account for a few of these. And they suck for doing that, there's no two ways about it. But that's about it. And I love my collection.
 

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jimmyjet said:
the key word here, is SUGGEST.

i already know about the ignore feature, and am currently using it with some posters.

someone posted that my posts were a bit extreme. i merely posted the same thing back. i was not complaining about this poster bothering me with his posts, and at least at this point, i have no desire to ignore this particular poster.

thank you for your suggestion.
I made the suggestion for others to use on you as you seem to bother certain members.
 

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Robert Crawford said:
Secondly, if certain members are bothering you with their posts/threads then use the ignore feature on them and they simply disappear from you sight line.
There is one member I would like to avoid - not in this thread I emphasize - so how do I activate this "ignore" feature? I can't find it anywhere.
 

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hi charles,

i like most of my collection, as well. there are a few that i dont really like, but one cant like all the movies they buy, unless one has already seen them.

one of the main reasons why i posted my blu-rays was to demonstrate which studios were and were not doing them.

but i also pointed out that the large percentage of my disks also had NO ADS.
 

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