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i am getting dam tired of them. i pay top dollar for the blu-ray format. i dont want a bunch of garbage playing automatically when i turn the disk on.

i absolutely would not buy it at all, if i knew up front. dollars is the only way one can use their voice. i see this as completely deceptive.

if they want to put in some previews, put in the special feature section, or a completely new one, called previews.
 

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For all the flak they've caught on other issues, CBS/Paramount does just that. On the TV seasons I have, you get a first option for the show menu or previews. Haven't seen any autoplay of previews on their film releases either, though there could be some.

What especially bugs me about previews is that, at least on blu-rays, the menu button is usually disabled and in many cases so is the chapter jump.

Memo to video companies: If a film/TV show/video that interests me is coming up, the news will get out. All previews do is annoy me.
 

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I almost never have a problem skipping the previews on my BD. I have an all region Oppo BD player, don't know if the make of the player has anything to do with it.
 

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Richard V said:
I almost never have a problem skipping the previews on my BD. I have an all region Oppo BD player, don't know if the make of the player has anything to do with it.
I've never encountered a preview that I couldn't skip either (using an old Samsung and a Panasonic player). I don't like previews on the front of a disc either but it takes more effort to start yet another thread complaining about them than it does to skip past them.
 

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This started with DVDs, it is not new with blu's but it has gotten worse. When digital storage of a movies became possible, this meant you really had a computer playing back your movie. The studios very quickly realized that digital media gave them the ability to control the user's experience, and too often, it was not to our pleasure.

Some discs when loaded go directly to the menu, some go to the previews, and some autoplay the movie. My preference would be loading the menu. Some studios decided to author very complex and not intuitive menus that take forever to load. In my personal experience, Terminator 2 Skynet Edition takes the very longest to get to playing the movie.

My oppo 93 will re-start a movie from where I left off, if the disc allows it. Some are authored so that it won't. What's the sense in that?

I think many studios when designing a disc do not think, "how can we make this the most pleasant user experience", but "how can we wring every last dollar from them, how can we make it a more unpleasant experience?"

Disney is notorious for forced previews.

Many DVDs won't allow you to select the audio channel while watching the movie even though it's possible, because some do. What is their thinking when they disallow that?

The sad fact is that your satisfaction is not always foremost in their minds. It ain't gonna change.
 

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hi johnny,

hopefully by having these discussions, we can point to those studios doing this, and those who do not.

and spend our dollars accordingly. after all, this is 100% about money.
 

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Well while I don't necessary enjoy the previews before the film, I have been able to skip ahead so it's not problem. I also purchase a DVD or Blu-ray for the title. Not for the cover art, extras, and not for whether there are previews on them or not. Not sure a boycott will work for that reason.
 
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the time to stop a cancer is before it begins.

fm started out as an almost commercial free substitute for am radio.

every year tv shows kept adding length to their commercials.

youtube used to be commercial free.

but with disks, we are actually buying a product, that everyone expects to be void of commercials.

when i buy a disk with the film abc, i was not intending to buy commercials with it.

it is just absolutely wrong. and i find it insulting, and a slap in the face for purchasing their product.

i would never knowing purchase one, just as i will never purchase a tv show until it is complete with good reviews.

i do not enjoy playing games with hollywood.
 

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jimmyjet said:
the time to stop a cancer is before it begins.

fm started out as an almost commercial free substitute for am radio.

every year tv shows kept adding length to their commercials.

youtube used to be commercial free.

but with disks, we are actually buying a product, that everyone expects to be void of commercials.

when i buy a disk with the film abc, i was not intending to buy commercials with it.

it is just absolutely wrong. and i find it insulting, and a slap in the face for purchasing their product.

i would never knowing purchase one, just as i will never purchase a tv show until it is complete with good reviews.

i do not enjoy playing games with hollywood.
You're about 16 years too late with this gripe, jimmyjet...it's been going on since the beginning of DVD's release in 1997...it's just that before you were able to SKIP these commercials, now you can't in some cases...
 
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jimmyjet said:
the time to stop a cancer is before it begins.

fm started out as an almost commercial free substitute for am radio.

every year tv shows kept adding length to their commercials.

youtube used to be commercial free.

but with disks, we are actually buying a product, that everyone expects to be void of commercials.

when i buy a disk with the film abc, i was not intending to buy commercials with it.

it is just absolutely wrong. and i find it insulting, and a slap in the face for purchasing their product.

i would never knowing purchase one, just as i will never purchase a tv show until it is complete with good reviews.

i do not enjoy playing games with hollywood.
Just as going to the movies or surfing the web, was a commercial free experience, back in the day. Unfortunately time marches on, and the bottom line is ALWAYS dollars, Euros, Pounds, Rubles, Pesos, etc. Given the opportunity, someone is always gonna try and sell you something. It is amazing, in some places you can't even pump gas without being assaulted with commericialism in one way or another. I think it is a losing battle.
 

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jimmyjet said:
i would never knowing purchase one, just as i will never purchase a tv show until it is complete with good reviews.
Well then you need to stop buying Sony, Disney, and MGM/Fox releases.
 

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Many BD releases from Alliance in Canada have previews that you can't skip. Even had a car ad at least once I can recall that was unskippable. I mention them because they still have a few titles uniquely for Region A.

Not even with OPPOs, I have two of their BD players, but...sometimes, with many BDs, continually pressing the Top Menu remote button will skip over the initial otherwise "unskippable" stuff much faster even if it doesn't actually get you directly to the top menu at first. And, you know the OPPO "yellow button" trick for DVDs: doesn't work on many DVDs from other Canadian "studios", rarely doesn't work for DVDs from everybody else.
 

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Steve Tannehill said:
What do you think about trailers before movies in movie theaters? They've been doing that since movies began...
Actually, trailers were originally shown AFTER the movie, hence their name, "trailer."
 

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Steve Tannehill said:
What do you think about trailers before movies in movie theaters? They've been doing that since movies began...
i dont think you are comparing apples to apples, or even close.

the sale of a disk is just that. if the buyer wants to simulate a home theater system, that is fine. but he should not be forced to do so.

how many of you want to buy a cd that immediately starts telling you about all the latest cds for sale ?

i buy a dvd to watch a movie, and extras on the movie, if present, and i choose to do so. i would not want the extras to start playing immediately.

i buy a cd to listen to the music on the title of the cd.

if they want to do previews, i would not complain if it was a menu item.

and we all know why it is not a menu item !!!!!!! so the argument about ads being at the movie theater is EXTREMELY WEAK.

i stopped watching over the air tv over 4 years ago. have no antenna or connection to it, for 2 reasons.

i dont like much of the current programming (at least not like the old stuff), and i am simply not interested in listening to a bunch of blabber from someone trying to sell me some product.

that is the whole point of actually buying the disk.
 

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ahollis said:
Well then you need to stop buying Sony, Disney, and MGM/Fox releases.
at least twice now, i have noticed it with sony. i dont think i have any disney ones.

i cant recall about mgm/fox releases.

but i am gonna start making a point to notice which ones do this.
 

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just started watching red tails - this one went straight to the menu.

20th century fox
 

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