Xbox lacks Game Developers

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  1. Chad Ferguson

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    I am a HUGE supporter of Xbox, but even I will admit that Xbox's weakness is that it lacks Developers to totally kill other systems. I just want to know why this is? I heard Konami might leave the Xbox. Also Square Soft hasn't been a supporter to my knowledge. While Xbox has some huge developers aboard those people aren't putting their huge selling series on the system.
    Capcom: Where is the Resident Evil series? Devil May Cry?
    Konami: Metal Gear Solid? If rumors are true than there is no MGS X.
    Square Soft: Where are you?
    Namco: Heard they could stick with just PS2
    I don't expect Xbox to get games like Mario and GT3, I understand why those are for those systems. But why keep stuff like the RE series and Final Fantasy series away from the Xbox? Anyone have any answer to this problem?
     
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    Well the X-box and the PS2 both took a big blow today as Capcom announced all new versions of Resident Evil including remakes or RE 1,2,3, and code veronica as well and Resident Evil 4 will be Gamecube exclusives.
    You can read about it here:
    http://cube.ign.com/news/38267.html
    [Edited last by Romier S on September 13, 2001 at 01:58 AM]
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    Here is a list of XBOX developers (still growing) [​IMG]
    1.Acclaim Entertainment, Inc.
    2.Activision, Inc.
    3.Aki Corp.
    4.Alfa System Co., Ltd.
    5.ALTAR interactive
    6.Anchor Inc.
    7.Angel Studios, Inc.
    8.ARC SYSTEM WORKS CO., LTD.
    9.Argonaut Games plc
    10.ARIKA CO., LTD.
    11.ARTDINK CORPORATION
    12.ARTOON CO., LTD.
    13.Ask Co., Ltd.
    14.ATLUS CO., LTD.
    15.Attention to Detail Ltd.
    16.Awesome Developments Ltd.
    17.bam! entertainment
    18.BANDAI CO., LTD.
    19.Barking Dog Studios, Ltd.
    20.Bethesda Softworks Inc.
    21.BioWare Corp.
    22.Blue Byte Software, Inc.
    23.Blue Shift, Inc.
    24.BUNKASHA PUBLISHING CO., LTD.
    25.CAPCOM CO., LTD.
    26.Charybdis Limited
    27.CLIMAX Ltd. Co.
    28.Conspiracy Entertainment Corporation
    29.Core Design Ltd.
    30.Crave Entertainment, Inc.
    31.Criterion Software Ltd.
    32.Cryo
    33.Crystal Dynamics Inc.
    34.DATAM POLYSTAR CO., LTD.
    35.Deep Red Games Ltd.
    36.DigitalWare Inc.
    37.DMA Design Ltd.
    38.DreamCatcher
    39.DreamForge Intertainment, Inc.
    40.DWANGO Co., Ltd.
    41.Dynamix
    42.Edge of Reality, Inc.
    43.Eidos interactive Ltd.
    44.Empire Interactive
    45.EON Digital Entertainment
    46.Epic Games
    47.Escape Factory, Ltd.
    48.Fox Interactive
    49.From Software, Inc.
    50.Funcom
    51.Gameplay
    52.Gathering of Developers
    53.GENKI Co., Ltd.
    54.Global A Entertainment, Inc.
    55.h.a.n.d. inc.
    56.H.I.C. Co., Ltd.
    57.Hasbro Interactive
    58.Havas Interactive
    59.HEADLOCK INC.
    60.Heavy Iron Studios
    61.Housemarque
    62.HUDSON SOFT CO., LTD.
    63.Humongous Entertainment, Inc.
    64.id Software, Inc.
    65.I-Imagine Interactive
    66.image corporation
    67.Imagineer Co., Ltd.
    68.Incredible Technologies, Inc.
    69.Infogrames
    70.Interplay Entertainment Corp.
    71.JALECO LTD.
    72.Kaboom Studios Limited
    73.Kalisto Entertainment
    74.KEMCO / Kotobuki System Co., Ltd
    75.Kodiak Interactive Software Studios
    76.KOEI Co., Ltd.
    77.KONAMI CORPORATION
    78.KOOL KIZZ AMUSEMENT WORKS, Inc.
    79.Kuju Entertainment
    80.Legend Entertainment Company
    81.LightWeight Co., Ltd.
    82.Lost Boys Interactive
    83.Majesco, Inc.
    84.Mass Media, Inc.
    85.MAX-INTERNATIONAL INC.
    86.Melbourne House
    87.MGM Interactive, a unit of Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Inc.
    88.Microids
    89.Midas Interactive Entertainment
    90.Midway Home Entertainment Inc.
    91.Monolith Productions, Inc.
    92.Monster Games, Inc.
    93.Mythos Games Ltd.
    94.NAGI CORPORATION
    95.NAMCO LIMITED
    96.Nest Corporation
    97.Neversoft Entertainment
    98.Nihilistic Software, Inc.
    99.NIHON CREATE INC.
    100.NovaLogic, Inc.
    101.OVER WORK'S Inc.
    102.Pacific Coast Power & Light Co.
    103.PANTHER SOFTWARE, INC.
    104.Papyrus
    105.Paradigm Studios
    106.Pipe Dream Interactive
    107.Qube
    108.R A C
    109.Radical Entertainment
    110.Rage
    111.Raven Software
    112.Red Storm Entertainment, Inc.
    113.Reflections Interactive
    114.Ripcord Games, LLC
    115.Riverhillsoft Inc.
    116.Rockstar Games
    117.Saffire Corporation
    118.SCi Entertainment Group PLC
    119.SHOEISHA Co., Ltd.
    120.Sierra
    121.Silicon Dreams Studio Ltd.
    122.Simon & Schuster Interactive
    123.SKY.Co., Ltd.
    124.SouthPeak Interactive
    125.Spike Co., Ltd.
    126.Starbreeze Studios
    127.T&E SOFT, Inc.
    128.TAITO CORPORATION
    129.TAKARA CO., LTD.
    130.Take-Two Interactive Software, Inc.
    131.TAKUYO KOUGYO CO., Ltd.
    132.TDK mediactive, Inc.
    133.TECMO, LTD.
    134.TELENET JAPAN CO., LTD.
    135.Terminal Reality
    136.The Codemasters Software Company Ltd.
    137.The Collective, Inc.
    138.The LEGO Compay A/S
    139.The Whole Experience, Inc.
    140.THQ
    141.Titus
    142.TopWare Interactive AG
    143.Treasure, Inc.
    144.Ubi Soft Entertainment
    145.Valve, LLC
    146.Victor Interactive Software Inc.
    147.VIDEO SYSTEM Co., Ltd.
    148.Virgin Interactive
    149.VIS entertainment plc
    150.Volition, Inc.
    151.Warthog PLC
    152.XeNN inc.
    153.YAGER Development
    154.Yuki Enterprise Inc.
    155.Zono, Inc.
    http://www.techtv.com/extendedplay/nextgengaming/story/0,23008,3000615,00.html
     
  6. BrianB

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    quote: Yes, the XBOX *truly* lacks game developers [/quote]
    LOL. That's a list of signed up developers. The Dreamcast, the Jaguar, even the Nuon, had huge lists like that.
    It's the games they finish developing that counts in the long-run.
    A lot of the list is bogus too. For instance, Rockstar, Take Two, DMA Design are all listed as seperate developers - they're all the one company, why list them three times?
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  7. Kelley_B

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    I don't think the Xbox lacks developers I think it lacks games, games that I want to play and that is why is will lack my money on November 8th, but GameCube will get my money on the 18th.
     
  8. Morgan Jolley

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    The X-Box is lacking developer support. There are a lot of developers, but they are not making big games on the console and aren't going to put series' like Final Fantasy on it.
    I didn't know Dead to Rights was XB exclusive. I thought it was on PS2. If Sony pissed Namco off so much, why is Tekken 4 still on PS2?
    Resident Evil Zero has been in development for a while (from N64 to GCN) and Capcom announced Dino Crisis 3 for XB a long time ago.
    SquareSoft has announced FFX and FFXII as PS2 exclusives. FFXI is for PC, PS2, and possibly another console (XB and/or GCN). If they announce anything, it will be a remake of The Bouncer or a whole new game. I hope they make the Bouncer so they can add to it, improve the graphics, and put in real-time high def and 5.1, but the controls will probably suffer and the game wouldn't sell much, so I doubt it.
    A lot of XB games (like those from Sega) are not totally exclusive. Some fall into a 6 month agreement, so they could end up on another console anyway. One big problem with the XB is its lack of exclusive games that are big titles. Nintendo has a bunch of first and second party ones, PS2 rules in its third parties, but the XB has a few here and there.
    A lot of the companies listed are not big developers. Actually, I think the GameBoy Advance has more developers than the X-Box, though I can't provide numbers. Keep in mind that its quality over quantity. The PSX was great because of its great games, not its numerous crappy ones.
     
  9. Gary King

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    As I said above... If I had to guess where Square was, I would say at a millenial faire.
    Dream Factory (the creators of the ethereal Tobal 2, and the barely mediocre Bouncer) are already hard at work on an Xbox game - Project KX. The Alpha2 XDK test animations are some of the best real-time graphics I've ever seen. The good news about KX is that the director has completely abandoned the interactive movie route, and just wants to make the ultimate fighting game (his previous credits include Virtua Fighter 2 and the Tobal series).
     
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    Morgan, if it suits Squaresoft to release FF7 on the XBox, they'll do just that. Square will go wherever the money is, especially since they need all the revenue they can get right now.
    With 'big' games costing so much to develop these days, it pays to spread the risk by appealing to the broadest market possible - multiple platforms.
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  12. Morgan Jolley

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    I don't see how you can say that they need money. Square made enough profit from FFX alone to make the FF movie and another game. Considering that the FF movie has made around $100 million worldwide (not including Japan), I would say they are doing pretty good.
    I doubt they will rerelease FF7-9 on the X-Box. They already announced them for PS2, and many people bought PS2s for the FF series. It wouldn't suit them to release them on the X-Box.
     
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    Morgan, if you don't understand why Brian is saying that Square needs money, do some searches in the finacial news and reading up on Square. The company has been in the news quite a bit (although I haven't seen anything in the past 1 or 2 months).
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    Say what you will about the XBox and lack of games.. but the reason i will be getting the xbox is for two games. plain and simple. Buffy.. and Raw Is War. thats all i need. in the end i know Bill will get the companies. i don't doubt the hand of god.. [​IMG]
     
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    "I don't see how you can say that they need money. Square made enough profit from FFX alone to make the
    FF movie and another game."
    I was under the impression that Sony put up the money for the movie?
     
  16. Chad Ferguson

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    In question of Xbox(Bill) getting the companies. The PC companies yes, but the console based ones aren't jumping into his arms.
     
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    You guys, its 2 months away from launch! how many companies were on the Sony Playstation band wagon before its launch? NO WHERE NEAR the amount Xbox has right now. The Xbox has the stongest launch support out of any of the console companies before they came to the ring... If its this good before Microsoft has even been proven as a good console maker, just think what it will be like in a year. Look at the big picture.
    Dean
     
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    Part of that big picture for me was Resient Evil, so forgive me for questioning Xbox on other big games.
     
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    I HATE FANBOYS!
    quote: I am a HUGE supporter of Xbox[/quote]
    Really? A HUGE Supporter? you are such a HUGE supporter, then support it.
    quote: Capcom: Where is the Resident Evil series? Devil May Cry?
    Konami: Metal Gear Solid? If rumors are true than there is no MGS X.
    Square Soft: Where are you?
    Namco: Heard they could stick with just PS2[/quote]
    Has it occured to anyone that is still more than 50 DAYS from the launch date of the XBOX? We basically know jack shit about the friggin thing at this point. There has been 3 commercials air in Canada...and they obviously aired in Canada because microsoft paid for them, they looked like shit, and didn't want to waste the money. The system isn't out yet and we are wondering where developer support is? Am I the only one that remembers what it was like to have a DVD player in late '97 early '98? Wait for 6 Months to a year and then complain about lack of support, by then we will know what systems will survive and which systems will die.
    Quote From Jim Taylor's Official DVD FAQ
    quote: When DVD players became available in early 1997, Warner and Polygram were the only major movie studios to release titles. Additional titles were available from small publishers. The other studios gradually joined the DVD camp. Dreamworks was the last significant studio to announce full DVD support. Paramount, Fox, and Dreamworks initially supported only Divx, but in summer 1998 they each announced support for open DVD.[/quote]
    This friggin Fanboy bickering back & forth is asinine. If you are a true gamer, you love games...thats all there is to it. Console Wars are created by idiots that argue back and forth on who's console has better developer support...but guess what...Developer Support means JACK SHIT to a true gamer. If a game console has great games thats all that matters.
    At this point I have my XBOX on preorder and can't wait for the 8th of november, I also have my Gamecube on preorder and can't wait for the 18th of november.
    At this point in time Microsoft's XBOX is the MOST POWERFUL game console ever designed. It is also reported to be one of the absolute easiest to design for. There will always be "Rumors & Talk" but until the systems are on the shelves, there is no reason to speculate on who's system has better games.
    [Edited last by Dan Brecher on September 14, 2001 at 05:54 AM]
     
  20. Chad Ferguson

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    As a "gamer" myself, I rather just buy one system than all of them. I want to see the Xbox do well(makes me a fan I think [​IMG] but with it losing out on some very important games it lowers it's chances. Also, I think we know a lot about the system, enough to talk about it. As for my questions concerning the games, that's pure curiousity. And please, drink less coffee or something, cause I never took a huge shot at you. Where does this anger come from? I find some of your comments overly abusive. As for the bickering, I love the games but I hate the business, thus, giving me a reason to bicker with others [​IMG]
     

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