The autonomous (self driving) car buyers and owners thread (1 Viewer)

[Sam Posten]

That's one of the biggest leaps of logic I've ever seen. =)

 

[Sam Posten]

sOUNDS AGGRESSIVE, LOVE IT
http://qz.com/677394/self-driving-t...ors-and-lyft-will-hit-the-road-within-a-year/

 

[Sam Posten]

So very cool
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/17/11686912/otto-self-driving-semi-truck-startup

 

[KevinGress]

Seems we have our first fatality....

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-...-to-confront-its-limits/ar-AAhSGnk?li=BBnbfcL

 

[Citizen87645]

The driver may or may not have been watching Harry Potter at the time.

Makes you think about what movie you choose to watch on an airplane, since it's possible it could be your last.

 

[Sam Posten]

163million miles driven without a fatality

 

[DaveF]

163million miles driven without a fatality

Is there something to put that in context. I don't know if BIG NUMBER is actually impressive or not, when compared to say miles driven by Subaru or Toyota cars.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

Is there something to put that in context. I don't know if BIG NUMBER is actually impressive or not, when compared to say miles driven by Subaru or Toyota cars.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports that in 2014 there were 1.08 fatalities for every 100 million vehicle miles traveled, which equates to a fatality roughly every 92.6 million vehicle miles. So, statistically speaking, an argument could be made for the Tesla's auto-driver feature still being nearly twice as safe as a human driver.

However, there's obviously a ton more data backing the NHTSA numbers than the Tesla numbers. It's also unlikely that the Tesla vehicle miles traveled mirror the conditions of the human-driven vehicles miles traveled, since I would imagine that drivers are more likely to engage the auto driver feature when driving conditions are relatively straightforward, and less likely to engage the auto driver feature when driving conditions are complicated -- downtown city driving, for instance, or really bad weather.

 

[Sam Posten]

Fun exercise:
http://boingboing.net/2016/08/11/website-asks-you-to-think-like.html

 

[Aaron Silverman]

Fun exercise:
http://boingboing.net/2016/08/11/website-asks-you-to-think-like.html

Golly, how cheerful!

 

[Sam Posten]

Can't happen soon enough!

 

[KevinGress]

I sincerely hope not.

I love how people think that a little technology will erase all problems - they seem to forget that technology is created by humans.

 

[Sam Posten]

Fed's first cut.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/19/12981448/self-driving-car-guidelines-obama-foxx-dot-nhtsa

 

[Sam Posten]

Boom, full auto auto
https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-teslas

 

[Aaron Silverman]

Odd choice of music, to say the least!

 

[KevinGress]

Fed's first cut.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/9/19/12981448/self-driving-car-guidelines-obama-foxx-dot-nhtsa

And so it starts. Boy, I hope the manufacturers fight this tooth and nail. This is not needed - the marketplace would work all of this out.

 

[Aaron Silverman]

That's all well and good until a kink gets "worked out" via an accident involving your family.

If the government can require me to take a driver's test to get a license, they can durn well set some standards for robots to do the same.

 

[KevinGress]

That's all well and good until a kink gets "worked out" via an accident involving your family.

If the government can require me to take a driver's test to get a license, they can durn well set some standards for robots to do the same.

And that's all that's needed - tests showing that the vehicle can handle the most likely type of scenarios. And the tests can be stringent. But you'd get that from the manufacturers anyway - they need to show the public that their product(s) is safe. No, what they want is control.

Also, they want ALL states to adopt these rules; that again is not their purview - states should decide on their own any regulations regarding driverless vehicles.

 

[Aaron Silverman]

Manufacturers can't even be trusted to be honest with their mileage ratings; what makes you think they'd be particularly stringent with robot tests?

Also, having different regulations from state to state is lunacy. Imagine not being able to drive -- whoops, I mean "ride" -- to another state because your car isn't legal there.

 

[Sam Posten]

So very cool
http://www.theverge.com/2016/5/17/11686912/otto-self-driving-semi-truck-startup

Delivered!
http://www.slate.com/articles/video...ing_truck_delivers_cases_budweiser_video.html