The autonomous (self driving) car buyers and owners thread (1 Viewer)

[Sam Posten]

 

[Edwin-S]

This is an interesting article on the ethical dilemnas facing AI in self-driving cars. It is in the form of an interactive quiz.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/info/2019/voitures-autonomes-dilemme-tramway/index-en.html

 

[Sam Posten]

Yeah we've seen many discussions of the so called Trolley Problem. One way to avoid it: Don't even consider them at all. It seems the only way that they can avoid falling into a lawsuit trap. Just do the best you can regardless of other life considerations.

 

[Sam Posten]

https://medium.com/cheddar/10-surprising-things-about-riding-in-a-self-driving-taxi-4d5e2d2fb8e3

 

[RobertR]

I just discovered some interesting videos about Comma Two, running open source software Openpilot. For 1000 bucks, you can turn any one of 63 different car models into a level 2 self driving car:

 

[Sam Posten]

Awesome

Watch BYD EV Garbage Truck As It Silently Picks Up Your Trash

BYD revealed its battery powered trucks some 3 years ago and here's one now doing what it was designed to do silently and efficiently.

insideevs.com

 

[Sam Posten]

This will be a watershed moment or a big joke.

Tesla to release a 'limited FSD beta' on October 20 to select drivers

It has been a long time coming, but it appears that Tesla is finally ready to start rolling out the first beta of its Full Self-Driving suite. The impending release seems to be well within schedule, too, with Elon Musk stating on Twitter that a limited FSD beta will be rolled out Tuesday next...

www.teslarati.com

 

[Sam Posten]

It's real!

 

[Sam Posten]

Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” beta is here, and it looks scary as hell

On the surface, it looks highly functional. But what happens when it’s inevitably misused?

www.theverge.com

 

[DaveF]

Tesla’s Exciting Q3 Numbers… And Chronic Flaw | by Jean-Louis Gassée | Oct, 2020 | Monday Note

Tesla’s Exciting Q3 Numbers… And Chronic Flaw

by Jean-Louis Gassée

mondaynote.com

There might be a cloud, however, in this sunny picture. Specifically, I can’t understand why Musk continues to flog what he blithely calls a “Full Self Driving” (FSD) vehicle.

It’s commonly acknowledged — by everyone except Musk, apparently — that a fully autonomous vehicle is one that can drive itself from point A to point B without any human intervention. This is what car geeks call Level 5 automation, but that’s not what Tesla offers under the “Full Self Driving” designation. In today’s Tesla vehicles, an attentive driver is always required, and the company has no credible path to eliminating the human at the wheel.

One can’t help wonder when — not if — the NHTSA (National Highway Transportation Safety Authority) will intervene. Without a doubt, Tesla offers sophisticated driver assistance technology…but why not call it just that: Driving Assistance, or some hyperbolic but still truthful variation? It’s one thing to exaggerate a little or a lot about delivery schedules, it’s another to promise Full Self Driving that isn’t. Tesla’s brilliant performance doesn’t need that excess.

 

[Sam Posten]

Full? Self? Driving? Hmmm…

How is Tesla’s full-self driving system coming along? Perhaps not so good. YouTuber AI Addict took the company’s FSD

kottke.org

 

[Angelo Colombus]

I would never have my car drive it's self. Maybe in the future when all the issues have been taken care of.

 

[Sam Posten]

I would never have my car drive it's self. Maybe in the future when all the issues have been taken care of.

Uh huh, and what about the millions of people who are going to have self driving cars zipping around you before you are comfortable with them?

 

[ChristopherG]

Uh huh, and what about the millions of people who are going to have self driving cars zipping around you before you are comfortable with them?

I feel like that is a looonng time off yet. Still seems like a solution looking for a problem to me.

 

[Angelo Colombus]

Uh huh, and what about the millions of people who are going to have self driving cars zipping around you before you are comfortable with them?

Say my prayers every morning while i am walking to my garage.

 

[Sam Posten]

I’m just saying that you aren’t going to be given a choice to live in this world or not. The tech is here today and it’s flawed. And despite those flaws and people’s misgivings it’s not up to others whether it can be used around them.

 

[Edwin-S]

I think a technology that drives you into a highway barrier or into the side of a truck is more than just flawed.

 

[Edwin-S]

Tesla calling a semi-autonomous driving software "full self driving" is not only misleading; it is bordering on fraudulent and is deadly, because the word full suggests to people that the car is fully capable of driving itself without human attention or intervention.

 

[Clinton McClure]

We’re still a long way from safe, fully-autonomous cars, regardless of what Elon Musk says. The simple truth of the matter is that human drivers are too unpredictable and don’t mix well with self-driving cars. Also, self driving cars can still be completely stymied by a kid with a fake stop sign or a piece of chalk.

 

[ChristopherG]

Tesla's "Full Self Driving" Beta Is Just Laughably Bad and Potentially Dangerous

If you think we're anywhere near fully autonomous cars, this video might convince you otherwise.

www.roadandtrack.com