The autonomous (self driving) car buyers and owners thread

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I'm technically legally blind and can't get a drivers license. Would love one of these things!!
 

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As of right now all these cars require an alert, capable driver to be able to over-ride the controls as needed. As they mature I expect that requirement to fade. We'll see!
 

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Sam Posten said:
I object to the government wanting to mandate this. I can see benefits to having vehicles 'talk' to each other, but it should come about as a function of the market. We don't need Big Brother telling us 'you have to do this' on yet another piece of our lives....
 
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I like the warning idea, but the idea that the collision-avoidance system would take over the vehicle while I'm driving (as opposed to a fully autonomous driving system) makes me nervous.

The gov'mint also likes this stuff 'cause it messes with radar detectors. ;)
 

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Aaron Silverman said:
The gov'mint also likes this stuff 'cause it messes with radar detectors. ;)
How many jurisdictions are still using radar?

Where I live...everybody has switched to LiDAR.
 

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Aaron Silverman said:
I like the warning idea, but the idea that the collision-avoidance system would take over the vehicle while I'm driving (as opposed to a fully autonomous driving system) makes me nervous.

The gov'mint also likes this stuff 'cause it messes with radar detectors. ;)
I thought the same thing when I saw the SuperBowl ad; the first generation of collision-avoidance is going to be 'hit and miss' (pun intended). I can forsee it becoming very good; just want the public to drive this (pun not intended), not the gubmint.
 

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According to my radar detector (which also detects laser), there's plenty of it in use. :)

Mine seems to be a little better about collision stuff. . .apparently, some radar detectors will go off if there's an Audi within a quarter mile!
 

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Aaron Silverman said:
I like the warning idea, but the idea that the collision-avoidance system would take over the vehicle while I'm driving (as opposed to a fully autonomous driving system) makes me nervous.

The gov'mint also likes this stuff 'cause it messes with radar detectors. ;)
The next step will be automatic reporting and ticketing for traffic violations. In theory, an autonomous vehicle could force adherence to traffic laws but I doubt they will go that way because the government wants the money from traffic tickets more than they care about actual safety.

-Keith
 

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KevinGress said:
I object to the government wanting to mandate this. I can see benefits to having vehicles 'talk' to each other, but it should come about as a function of the market. We don't need Big Brother telling us 'you have to do this' on yet another piece of our lives....
So I suppose you also believe the Government shouldnt have built the American Highway system? Or helped fund the development of the Internet?
 
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Keith Plucker said:
The next step will be automatic reporting and ticketing for traffic violations. In theory, an autonomous vehicle could force adherence to traffic laws but I doubt they will go that way because the government wants the money from traffic tickets more than they care about actual safety.

-Keith
Sure conspiracy theories are fun. On the other hand this could be the first step on the way to both safer AND faster transportation. It will be messy for years, but the end result has to be something we all can live with.
 

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I test drove a Subaru with EyeSight a while back.It was a bit unnerving. Especially when you find out..."only works above 30mph".So it can handle the easy drive. The self lane change was cool though.
 

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Sure conspiracy theories are fun. On the other hand this could be the first step on the way to both safer AND faster transportation. It will be messy for years, but the end result has to be something we all can live with.
Exactly how will it make it faster? Are you counting on fewer traffic jams to slow you down or are you think they will be speeding around at greater speeds? Just curious how it will make things faster.I remember in the Hyperloop thread someone posted that self driving cars could make driving a better choice to flying in more cases which of course is laughable when you think about it. Self driving, human driving it does not matter, cars will always have the same limitations they current have today when it comes to traveling great distances.
 

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Patrick_S said:
Exactly how will it make it faster? Are you counting on fewer traffic jams to slow you down or are you think they will be speeding around at greater speeds? Just curious how it will make things faster.
We simply don't know. Could someone have predicted what the great american highway system would look like back when they were still driving a horse and buggy? How about the Autobahn? NASCAR? F1?Both of what you mention are possibilities, but not guarantees. I'm an optimist for this tech, but I wouldn't stake anything on it, either financially or just as a bet. I'm a pessimist about a lot of things in life, it's easy to see the roadblocks on things and it's hard work to get around em. It's fun to be a pessimist too. The nice thing about pessimism is that for any given prediction you are either right or pleasantly surprised.If it's done right it could litterally save tens of thousands of lives in our country alone, each year. That's a hell of an incentive. That's the carrot.It's too early to say if the right way to go about it is federally mandated or market driven, both will have their place. Just like the internet intersects both of these, we can see how it would be truly godawful if we had to live with federally directed internet services but we have profited mightily from the USG's involvement in the net. It's a balancing act. Will be argued about for decades. So I caution anyone to get too far ahead of themselves ideologically at this time. Pitchers and catchers have just reported for spring training, its a long time till we get to the first out of the first game in the season.
 

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schan1269 said:
I test drove a Subaru with EyeSight a while back.It was a bit unnerving. Especially when you find out..."only works above 30mph".So it can handle the easy drive. The self lane change was cool though.
I have the autostop tech in my 2014 Cherokee. It IS startling the first time it does its job when you arent expecting it. It sucks when it tries to stop you from rolling over a 6 inch pile of snow getting out of my driveway. But if it saves my life some day all that will have been worth it.
 

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