The Apple Vision Pro buyers and owners thread (2 Viewers)

[Robert Saccone]

Does VP place windows in an absolute or relative sense?

Start it up from say the office and put about bunch of windows around the house, then the next day start up in say the kitchen, is everything in the same locations are are they all shifted relative to the kitchen now?

Or: If you use it in your home office. Then shut down, fly cross country, and start up in the next day in your remote office, are all your windows 3000 miles away? Or are they in the same place relative to you in the new location?

Good questions. I am not sure at this point. However my gut tells me that if I put the device to sleep instead of shutting it down I expect it to leave things running as they are where they are. The caveat might be a large change in geography along the lines. When you disconnect the power from the VP it shuts down and I am not sure what it does when coming back up because I haven't consciously paid attention. Will try it out.

 

[Robert Saccone]

I am taking Amtrak tomorrow and I am hesitant about using it on the train as I don't want to become a spectacle. I don't think I would use it on the subway for fear of being what they used to call "Apple Picked"

 

[Edwin-S]

I'll say the last thing I want to do in life is take the office with me everywhere I go and this does that.

 

[Sam Posten]

Can’t wait for the first NYC tourist to have the aVP robbed right off their head

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Marquees has another video out from the weekend. He does a bit of comparison to the Quest 3 and confirms that the AVP is limited to one monitor window and you cannot use your physical keyboard in fully immersed mode.

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[Ronald Epstein]

Found this interesting

 

[Robert Saccone]

Answering a few early Vision Pro questions

Like everyone else–okay, not everyone, but I’d guess a surprising percentage of the Six Colors audience–I took possession of an Apple Vision Pro on Friday. I’ve already spen…

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[Sam Posten]

Marquees has another video out from the weekend. He does a bit of comparison to the Quest 3 and confirms that the AVP is limited to one monitor window and you cannot use your physical keyboard in fully immersed mode.

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[Ronald Epstein]

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Since when do I pay attention to anything you post

Sorry, that was a complete oversight on my part. Good video, though.

 

[Sam Posten]

Found this interesting

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[Sam Posten]

I predict pain

 

[Sam Posten]

YouTube confirmed the today a vision app is on their roadmap. Your move Netflix.

 

[Nelson Au]

Have you guys seen the quotes from James Cameron about the Vision Pro?

James Cameron Loves Apple's Vision Pro. But Will It Be Addictive? - Slashdot

James Cameron tells Vanity Fair's Nick Bilton that his experience with Apple's Vision Pro "was religious. I was skeptical at first. I don't bow down before the great god of Apple, but I was really, really blown away... I think it's not evolutionary; it's revolutionary. And I'm speaking as...

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[Robert Saccone]

When you use "pass-through" mode you are bringing your real world into the virtual world. You can see everything in your room including your laptop and keyboard.

However, when you go completely into virtual, immersing yourself in other surroundings, you completely block out the real world, including everything in your room and your laptop keyboard.

At that point, you are dependent on the Apple virtual keyboard which hinders your typing speed.

On Quest 3, you can create a small opening called a "portal" within the virtual world that brings a small portion of the real world in. That portal exposes your keyboard. Have a mouse? You create another "portal" that exposes your mouse.

Here is a video that shows what I am talking about. I haven't seen anything comparable on Vision Pro, but then again small tidbits of what the AVP can do are coming out day by day.

NOTE: PAY ATTENTION TO KEYBOARD PASSTHROUGH IN THE VIDEO

Today I put myself in fully immersive mode and I was still able to use my physical mouse and keyboard that I had attached to the VP. It's not that you can't use these devices it's just that you can't see them clearly. For the mouse that's not really a big deal but it might hamper you if you rely on seeing your keyboard. However what I did notice is that if I looked down to where my keyboard is the VP showed me where my hands were and I could also see a faint image of my keyboard at the same time which was enough for me to ensure my hands were oriented on the keys so I could type effectively. Hopefully Apple will improve the situation in this scenario.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Today I put myself in fully immersive mode and I was still able to use my physical mouse and keyboard that I had attached to the VP. It's not that you can't use these devices it's just that you can't see them clearly. For the mouse that's not really a big deal but it might hamper you if you rely on seeing your keyboard. However what I did notice is that if I looked down to where my keyboard is the VP showed me where my hands were and I could also see a faint image of my keyboard at the same time which was enough for me to ensure my hands were oriented on the keys so I could type effectively. Hopefully Apple will improve the situation in this scenario.

I am sure Apple will improve upon this. It makes no sense to hide the most important input device while fully immersed.

I spend about an hour each day being productive while VR immersed. I enjoy the experience.

 

[Edwin-S]

I find these guys walking around in public flexing that they have the resources to buy a 3500 dollar headset are begging to be mugged.

 

[Ronald Epstein]

I find these guys walking around in public flexing that they have the resources to buy a 3500 dollar headset are begging to be mugged.

Agreed. I look at it as partly showing off. The thing about stealing Apple devices, some of them can be traced and/or bricked. Not sure if that is the case with the AVP.

 

[Edwin-S]

Agreed. I look at it as partly showing off. The thing about stealing Apple devices, some of them can be traced and/or bricked. Not sure if that is the case with the AVP.

I would hope that Apple would have either or both of those features built in to such an expensive limited availability device, bit knowing human nature there is sure to be some dumbass that will go ahead and rip off someone's head just to prove they can.

They might not even steal it, just do it to provide the person wearing it a life "lesson" in humility. Hope it doesn't happen, bit people were being mugged for sneakers at one time, so I wouldn't put the possibility anywhere near zero.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

Wait. Are they actually saying they wear it and/or have it highly visible (and essentially readily snatchable) when they're out and about???

I would think walking about w/ an AVP (hidden) inside a bag, etc shouldn't be any different than w/ a similarly expensive camera kit or the like... although not every camera kit costs as much as an AVP of course... but neither does other non-Apple VR goggles, etc -- would think the thief would have to know for sure it's an AVP (and what's an AVP), which might be somewhat easier than knowing expensive camera kits, etc.

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[ManW_TheUncool]

FWIW, I imagine one is (much) more likely to come across someone very visibly (and casually), lugging a (possibly obviously) more expensive, (often big/hefty) pro camera+lens w/out a ton protection... though likely not in a tough neighborhood of course. I've even seen that often enough in kids playgrounds here in NYC, LOL -- some might actually be pro photogs (w/ kids), but some are probably just enthusiasts w/ more $$$ than sense, LOL.

Not very recently (as I haven't been out and about quite that much), but definitely before the pandemic, especially before mirrorless cameras started replacing pro DSLRs...

I mean... you don't even need an actual pro camera to have something that costs as much as the AVP. A new Nikon Z7ii + most good lens one would likely use w/ it will cost about that much, if not more.

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