Rush Hour 2 Award: Any Candidates?

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  1. steve jaros

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    The Rush Hour 2 award is a prize i give to any movie that meets two criteria. 1) It has to be godawful, and 2) it must earn at least $200 mil in the USA. Last year, the namesake captured this valuable token, and we awarded one to the Mummy Returns as well. But what about this year?

    I thought Scooby Doo would be a prime candidate - it certainly meets criteria 1. But it may not bag #2.

    The other current possibility is MIB 2. It looks like a cinch to meet the money mark, but i'm wavering on whether it is actually 'godawful' or merely pretty bad...

    Any ideas?
     
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    I don't think that Rush Hour 2 is godawful...
     
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    Does it also have to be a pointless sequel?
    'Cause the sequel to both of the films (MIB2, Rush Hour 2) exist for NO other reason than the fact that the first made obscene amounts of money.
    If not, I think the granddaddy of all supremely lousy blockbusters has to be Independence Day, a movie whose audience seemed to celebrate and revel in its awfulness.
     
  5. Dennis Heller

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    How much did Wild Wild West make? If over $200 mil., then there's your winner.
     
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    First of all, Steve says he will give the award to ANY film that meets his two criteria.

    Secondly, he is asking for this year's nominees. I think we've probably seen all the crappy films this year that are gonna do 200 mil. I don't anticipate Scooby hitting the mark, though I imagine MIB 2 will. So I would say MIB 2 will win by default.

    How much did Pearl Harbor make? Did it pass up 200 mil? Cuz if so, I'd say that turkey beat out Rush Hour 2 AND the Mummy. And actually, I liked Rush Hour 2. Sure, there were some major flaws, and it wasn't high art, but like the guy said...It was a sequel to Rush Hour. Some of it was funny and cute. I wasn't upset that I spent the money for a matinee.
     
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    Replies to Richard Damin, and Dennis:
    Dennis - WWW didn't come close to 200, it barely scraped over 100.
    Richard - No, PH stopped at 198+ million. Just missed. But yes i agree it would have been awared a 'rushy' had it rang the bell. [​IMG]
    Damin: I liked Rush Hour, gave it a thumbs up. It's one of the reasons i was so disappointed in RH2.
     
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    As an action comedy sequel, Rush Hour 2 was FAR from awful! That aside, it wasn't in the same League of Badness as some of the other titles under discussion anyway. . .
     
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    Nomination: "Attack of the Clones"

    I was very excited considering the early reviews, but it ended up being "godawful" in my view.
     
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    MIB II definitely gets my vote. How the heck could someone spend $140 million on this and get effects and jokes completely inferior to the original is beyond me.
     
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    Alex - Now that you've put it that way, i intend to agree. Parts of MIB2 look schlocky, even though they spent tons of money.

    Plus, 1:28 running time?

    Malcolm R - i'd give a vote to Episode I as well.
     
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    I thought both Rush Hour movies were entertaining. Definitely not a movie to use for the title of such an award.
     
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    I skipped Rush Hour 2 because Rush Hour is the worst movie of all-time, in my opinion.
     
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    Well I bought Rush Hour 2 because I thought that the first one was an excellent action/adventure comedy[​IMG]
     
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    Ok, interesting question. (I'll cast my vote on Rush Hour 2: I think it's crap!) As far as 'other' nominees, we may be a bit limited in that (as of today) only 41 films have ever grossed over $200 million domestically.
    In the interest of helping people cast their votes, I'll list the members of the $200 million club:
    • Armageddon
      The Mummy Returns
      The Exorcist
      Terminator 2: Judgment Day
      Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me
      Back to the Future
      Mission: Impossible 2
      Saving Private Ryan
      Aladdin
      Ghost
      Mrs. Doubtfire
      Rush Hour 2
      The Lost World: Jurassic Park
      Cast Away
      Beverly Hills Cop
      Ghostbusters
      Twister
      Raiders of the Lost Ark
      Toy Story 2
      Men in Black
      Batman
      Monsters, Inc.
      How the Grinch Stole Christmas
      Jaws
      Shrek
      Home Alone
      The Empire Strikes Back
      Attack of the Clones
      The Sixth Sense
      Independence Day
      Return of the Jedi
      Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
      The Lion King
      Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
      Forrest Gump
      Jurassic Park
      Spider-Man
      The Phantom Menace
      E.T. the Extra Terrestrial
      Star Wars
      Titanic
    Of those movies, the only ones I'd call 'real crap' are The Mummy Returns, Rush Hour 2, and Twister, although I'm not a big fan of The Lost World, Mission: Impossible 2, Mrs. Doubtfire or Men in Black.
    (Thanks to www.boxofficemojo.com for the box-office stats.)
     
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    I really found RH2 to be pretty funny. Not that far off the original for me, which honestly caught me by surprise.

    I am also one of the people that thought MIB2 wasn't too bad. At least a little better than Ghostbusters 2 which was another sequel that wasn't the original but tried to continue in the same type of humor as the first. Both suffer from the actual narrative not having the same life as the original.


    From Scott's list my opinion of really bad films:

    Mummy Returns (oh, that horrible CGI monster at the end)
    M:I 2 (what a sloppy mess - aka, "101 Things You Can't Do on a Motorcycle")
    Twister (terrible story, terrible flying cow)
    Lost World (though it had a couple of good action sequences)

    Armageddon and Phantom Menace are films I do not like, but I can find some pleasure in them in spots.
     
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    The Rush Hour films bother me because Chris Tucker's mouth gets in the way of an otherwise potentially entertaining Jackie Chan film.


    How about the re-release of E.T.? Can we count that?
     
  18. steve jaros

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    JasenP - i echo ()))))))))))() your sentiments. Tucker is insufferable in RH2.

    Not that i always find him that way. I enjoyed RH1.
     
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    Oh man. I had already flushed the Mummy Returns 'experience' from my brain. I really enjoyed the first one as a 'B-movie sleeper' with broad action and some creative special effects. They used their leads to good effect and weren't especially unfriendly in their approach. Plus, they managed to balance comedy, action, and a little horror better than they deserved to.
    The sequel, however, was a completely different story. They introduce a ridiculous subplot, bring back characters that shouldn't have been brought back and provided anemic action scenes. But the worst result was a recycling of scenes and special effects in a remarkably inferior manner (Wall of Sand/Wall of Water). Plus, they made the leads completely unlikeable and depressing throughout and had no suitable comic relief.
    I'll second The Mummy Returns for sure.
     

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