Vince Maskeeper
Senior HTF Member
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- Jan 18, 1999
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Despite authoring hundreds, if not thousands of posts to help newbies in this area-- Despite organizing and writing the majority of the FAQ for this forum and contributing to several books and articles on Home Theater-- Despite years as a moderator on this forum...
I have a dirty secret.
I know nothing about Satellite TV. Heck, do they even call it DBS anymore?
I guess to say I know "nothing" is putting it a bit rough-- I have a bit of off-handed and out-of-date knowledge and have watched satellite broadcasts before-- but as I am now considering purchasing a system for my apartment- i realize i need all the help in the world.
Here's what I know I want/need, and anyone offering any advice on services, equipment or vendors --- or can offer input on pitfalls and caveates - please don't hesitate to pipe up!
I want multiple rooms. I recall back in the old days you had to get a special dish, "dual LNB" in order to serve 2 rooms with satellite signal. At the time, I think, 2 rooms were the max without a second dish. I would like to have, at minimum, 2 tuners in my config- and if it wouldn't cost much more, I would like to have the option to add a 3rd room if needed. I assume they have quad LNB systems by now, or have gotten a new technology that isn't limited to 2 like the old days?
I want HD. I would like a tuner/dish/channel package that gives me access to HD programming. I don't plan to have hbo or premium movie channels, but the ability to get HD network feeds (either from the dish or from using the dish as an OTA tuner for local signals) and maybe HD stuff like Discovery would be a big plus. Being able to set a standard output resolution and screen format for SD content would be a bonus too (I assume asking for decent quality scaling sd to hd would be too much to wish for?). I considered voom, but it seems that their customer satisfaction is in the toilet and getting worse everyday...
I want a basic channel package with locals. I don't really want many/any premium channels: just the normal Cnn, MTV, VH1, Discovery, History, Espn, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network type stuff you get with cable. You know, your entry level package. I would like to be able to get local channels, although I live in LA now, so I assume that shouldn't be too tall an order (I remember the days when Dish carried their "network feeds" that were just local broadcasts from NY and LA piped all over the country...). I'd happily sign a 1 year contract to a channel package to get a deal!
I'd love PVR. I'd love to have a tuner that featured tivo or other pvr ability- even better if it supports HD pvr! Although I want 2 tuners, only one of them really needs to have pvr (although- is it possible to stream recorded content from a PVR onto another receiver yet? that would be cool.)
I'd like digital connections. At least the main box will be connected to a plasma that supports DVI-HDCP and HDMI and I'd love to be able to use it. The second box could be analog only (component or better yet VGA) - although if it's cheaper to just by a "set" of boxes, that's fine too.
I am very critical of clumsy and slow user interfaces. These dish systems seem to take a long time to actually "flip" through the channels like normal analog channel surfing (or they used to, has that improved much??)--- so i always navigate by surfing the channel banners and like to be able to scan up and down channels and forward in time easily without taking up the majority of the screen with a grid. I'd love to find hardware that allows customization of navigation and user profiles for favorites/etc. But i would settle for a system which is known to have solid, well design OSD and is good in terms of speed and responsiveness.
So guys- where do I start??
I guess I need to first figure out which service providers are out there (Direct TV? Is Dish still in business or were they bought by Direct TV? Are there other providers worth looking at?) And which one(s) offers the things I'm looking for...
Then I guess i need to figure out what equipment options exist for that platform. Usually there are well known best-bang-for-a-particular-budget selections... so maybe someone could send me a link to discussions on this matter.
And then finally, I guess, I'd have to find out where I can buy this service and equipment for the best prices. Again, the internet and forums like this one are excellent for these kinds of tips--- and I'm sure there are satellite-centric discussion forums out there... so someone guide me!
Anything you have to say is appreciated- i'm completely lost, so fill me in!
-Vince
I have a dirty secret.
I know nothing about Satellite TV. Heck, do they even call it DBS anymore?
I guess to say I know "nothing" is putting it a bit rough-- I have a bit of off-handed and out-of-date knowledge and have watched satellite broadcasts before-- but as I am now considering purchasing a system for my apartment- i realize i need all the help in the world.
Here's what I know I want/need, and anyone offering any advice on services, equipment or vendors --- or can offer input on pitfalls and caveates - please don't hesitate to pipe up!
I want multiple rooms. I recall back in the old days you had to get a special dish, "dual LNB" in order to serve 2 rooms with satellite signal. At the time, I think, 2 rooms were the max without a second dish. I would like to have, at minimum, 2 tuners in my config- and if it wouldn't cost much more, I would like to have the option to add a 3rd room if needed. I assume they have quad LNB systems by now, or have gotten a new technology that isn't limited to 2 like the old days?
I want HD. I would like a tuner/dish/channel package that gives me access to HD programming. I don't plan to have hbo or premium movie channels, but the ability to get HD network feeds (either from the dish or from using the dish as an OTA tuner for local signals) and maybe HD stuff like Discovery would be a big plus. Being able to set a standard output resolution and screen format for SD content would be a bonus too (I assume asking for decent quality scaling sd to hd would be too much to wish for?). I considered voom, but it seems that their customer satisfaction is in the toilet and getting worse everyday...
I want a basic channel package with locals. I don't really want many/any premium channels: just the normal Cnn, MTV, VH1, Discovery, History, Espn, Comedy Central, Cartoon Network type stuff you get with cable. You know, your entry level package. I would like to be able to get local channels, although I live in LA now, so I assume that shouldn't be too tall an order (I remember the days when Dish carried their "network feeds" that were just local broadcasts from NY and LA piped all over the country...). I'd happily sign a 1 year contract to a channel package to get a deal!
I'd love PVR. I'd love to have a tuner that featured tivo or other pvr ability- even better if it supports HD pvr! Although I want 2 tuners, only one of them really needs to have pvr (although- is it possible to stream recorded content from a PVR onto another receiver yet? that would be cool.)
I'd like digital connections. At least the main box will be connected to a plasma that supports DVI-HDCP and HDMI and I'd love to be able to use it. The second box could be analog only (component or better yet VGA) - although if it's cheaper to just by a "set" of boxes, that's fine too.
I am very critical of clumsy and slow user interfaces. These dish systems seem to take a long time to actually "flip" through the channels like normal analog channel surfing (or they used to, has that improved much??)--- so i always navigate by surfing the channel banners and like to be able to scan up and down channels and forward in time easily without taking up the majority of the screen with a grid. I'd love to find hardware that allows customization of navigation and user profiles for favorites/etc. But i would settle for a system which is known to have solid, well design OSD and is good in terms of speed and responsiveness.
So guys- where do I start??
I guess I need to first figure out which service providers are out there (Direct TV? Is Dish still in business or were they bought by Direct TV? Are there other providers worth looking at?) And which one(s) offers the things I'm looking for...
Then I guess i need to figure out what equipment options exist for that platform. Usually there are well known best-bang-for-a-particular-budget selections... so maybe someone could send me a link to discussions on this matter.
And then finally, I guess, I'd have to find out where I can buy this service and equipment for the best prices. Again, the internet and forums like this one are excellent for these kinds of tips--- and I'm sure there are satellite-centric discussion forums out there... so someone guide me!
Anything you have to say is appreciated- i'm completely lost, so fill me in!
-Vince