As MattH states above, the theatrical release of Gypsy is exactly what is on the DVD - the cut musical numbers were NEVER a part of any theatrical showing, save for early previews, after which, they were cut.Humm said:
I wonder if the beginning to "Together" with Roz's solo exists anywhere, on the DVD the song just starts up in the middle, but on the CD she sings the first time through
Unless, of course, TCM starts to actually broadcast in true, native HD (not upconverted HD that it is presently offering). But Warner will probably milk as much money out of the Blu-rays first before letting TCM show them in HD.Danny Burk said:
IMDB claims it was released in 70mm 6-track and 35mm 4-track, but I also find no evidence of either. Gypsy was released in 1962. We know it was shot in Technirama (horizontal 35mm). My records show that the first 35mm to 70mm blowup was Bye, Bye Birdie in 1963, followed by The Cardinal, however there are also doubts as to whether Bye, Bye Birdie was ever released in 70mm in the United States. Michael Coate, who has done extensive research in this regard, can find no evidence that Bye, Bye Birdie played in 70mm and if it did, NYC did not get a print, which would have been highly unusual. Even Carr & Hayes (although frequently wrong) doesn't indicate either stereo or 70mm release for Gypsy. However, even if it was never released in stereo, it doesn't mean that the original audio mag tracks weren't recorded in stereo (at least 2-channel). Of course if they no longer exist, they can't be used.rsmithjr said:
My cable company, RCN, finally started offering TCM in HD about a week ago and I was very excited. And then I looked at it and was very disappointed because it looks only very slightly better than the SD version does. Some of the 1.33 black and white films actually look pretty good, but most of it looks horrible, no better for wide-screen films than having my TV blow up the SD version to the full screen width. It's really too bad because I do appreciate that they show almost everything in original AR and that there's no commercials. I realize that since this is not an ad-driven station, Turner/Time-Warner probably doesn't make very much from this channel, but it's really a shame that this isn't true HD. Since Turner/WB owns most of the films that they show, this wouldn't be very costly for them as they probably already have HD versions of many of these films. Truth is that I wouldn't mind if they added commercials in-between the movies (but not during the movies) in return for broadcasting in true HD.kevin_y said:
I've just gone 15 rounds with someone at Blu-ray.com. He swore to me up and down that he had seen TRUE HD on TCM on satellite a couple of occasions. "Citizen Kane" was what he saw, some time in June last year I believe. Can anyone corroborate? I've always seen only upconverted HD on TCM. Even a TCM rep has said on the TCM forum that only upconverted HD has ever been shown.zoetmb said:
I've seen true HD on TCM once or twice - there was a showing of Gladiator that was most definitely HD and another title that I can't remember, but it's exceedingly rare. 99.99% of their offerings are upconverts.kevin_y said:
Some people have insisted on such showings, but the direct quotes I read from TCM executives is that they're unable to broadcast in True HD at this time. Hopefully, that will change one day soon.
I know I've asked this before, but were these quotes to you personally, or are they out here somewhere on the internet. The last quote I was able to find (other than repeats of the same statement) was a couple of years old - which is ancient in technology terms. I'm not doubting your word, only wondering if things have changed. (and I don't buy the argument that there would have been formal announcements if things had changed, so since there wasn't an announcement, it must not have) DavidRobert Crawford said:
Then that's where you and I differ as I think TCM would make a big deal if they upgraded their technology to broadcast in true HD. Anyhow, people believe and see what they want to.
Yes but the upscale TCM looks much better than what you see in SD. As a Verizon Fios customer, the one thing I have asked them for is TCM HD. So far no luck. In recent months Fios has added BBC America HD and Cartoon Network HD so I guess there is always hope. The strange thing about Fios is when they add HD channels there is no announcement, they are just there. So every month I check to see if TCM HD has joined the line up.Erik_H said:
