UHD Review A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Silence of the Lambs -- in 4k UHD Blu-ray (1 Viewer)

[ghostwind]

I suspect your display needs to be calibrated.

For SDR that can be done, but not for HDR. Displays tone map differently and all over the place...

 

[Robert Crawford]

For SDR that can be done, but not for HDR. Displays tone map differently and all over the place...

Yup, which is why viewing variations are all over the place with our different HT setups.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

I'm looking at the screenshot comparisons at caps-a-holic between the UHD and the Criterion disc and I don't see much difference in detail. In fact i see more detail in the Criterion disc. Am I the only one?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=16653&d2=16261&s1=180391&s2=173938&i=7&l=0

Seems like better for pixel-peeping (to avoid probably otherwise hardly noticeable compression and/or chroma noise?) based on those screencaps I guess...

_Man_

 

[ghostwind]

I'm looking at the screenshot comparisons at caps-a-holic between the UHD and the Criterion disc and I don't see much difference in detail. In fact i see more detail in the Criterion disc. Am I the only one?

https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0&d1=16653&d2=16261&s1=180391&s2=173938&i=7&l=0

Yep, I agree. Something is odd. Caps-a-holic is good for resolution comparisons only, never color, and this is the first time I see the Blu-ray showing more resolution than the 4K.

 

[ManW_TheUncool]

Yep, I agree. Something is odd. Caps-a-holic is good for resolution comparisons only, never color, and this is the first time I see the Blu-ray showing more resolution than the 4K.

Not sure it's actually more resolution/detail instead of (judicious) sharpening applied on the Criterion BD, but certainly, the 4K is not a clear upgrade based on those screencaps... except perhaps on compressing/encoding (and possibly finer film grain rendering plus what appears like chroma noise issue w/ the Criterion) and such...

Anyway, all this suggest to me I'll be happy to just stick w/ the Criterion BD plus iTunes 4K digital and skip the 4K disc release...

_Man_

 

[Worth]

The 4K disc is better than the Criterion blu, as a result of better colour and HDR. There's not much of a difference in sharpness - the Criterion is just a little bit harsh looking, while the 4K is a bit smoother and more film-like. But overall, it's a pretty subtle difference.

 

[Johnny Angell]

The 4K disc is better than the Criterion blu, as a result of better colour and HDR. There's not much of a difference in sharpness - the Criterion is just a little bit harsh looking, while the 4K is a bit smoother and more film-like. But overall, it's a pretty subtle difference.

Ah, finally a judgment of the video quality of the movie and not all the screen shot crap. Thanks.

 

[ghostwind]

The 4K disc is better than the Criterion blu, as a result of better colour and HDR. There's not much of a difference in sharpness - the Criterion is just a little bit harsh looking, while the 4K is a bit smoother and more film-like. But overall, it's a pretty subtle difference.

I get my copy today and will compare it myself. Reports are the colors are washed out in the first 20min or so and there's a green tint, but I need to see for myself on my display.

 

[Konstantinos]

There is also a report at the other forum, that the Kino stereo is just a downmix of the 5.1 audio and not the same stereo as the Criterion:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=19480960&postcount=847

I'm torn and don't know what to buy. I'm leaning a bit towards the Criterion.

 

[Derrick King]

I think I'm going to hang on a bit, stick with the Blu-ray, and wait to see if it gets a UHD from some other label before upgrading. I really want any UHD disc to be the absolute last time I buy a movie.

 

[ghostwind]

Looks like the first 20min or so is in the wrong color space, then it's OK. This should be recalled. Kino messed up.

 

[Stephen_J_H]

Looks like the first 20min or so is in the wrong color space, then it's OK. This should be recalled. Kino messed up.

Would you care to elaborate? What's wrong?

 

[ghostwind]

Would you care to elaborate? What's wrong?

See post #865 here and more discussion in the thread. I noticed the same exact thing when watching and comparing with the Criterion, as have many others. Now we have proof using Resolve.

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[Lord Dalek]

post #865

Oh lord not that guy please.

 

[ghostwind]

Oh lord not that guy please.

Who is he? I have no clue, but he seems to be spot on with what I'm seeing. Look at post 881 where things are shown in Resolve. It's pretty clear the mastering mistake. I first noticed it when watching on my own OLED - it was just plain wrong. That thread confirmed it. Also this post shows it very clearly and objectively.

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[Neil S. Bulk]

Has anyone compared the disc to the iTunes stream which is also 4k and Dolby Vision?

 

[ghostwind]

Has anyone compared the disc to the iTunes stream which is also 4k and Dolby Vision?

Same issue.

 

[Konstantinos]

We've QCd this disc around a dozen times, so whatever you're seeing we're not and nothing went wrong during the encoding/authoring stage. The release has received 5 out of 5 for picture and sound by many prominent reviewers. You can return the disc for a full refund if you're not happy with it.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=19491876&postcount=62031

 

[ghostwind]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=19491876&postcount=62031

Corporate talk. It's clear as day there is a colorspace issue lol. There are some titles that separate those that know from those that don't know when it comes to reviews. Most don't know...As a colorist, for me it was not only easy to spot, but also easy to objectively measure in Resolve, as have others.

 

[James Luckard]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.php?p=19491876&postcount=62031

KL always says that when an error gets pointed out. They said some version of that about Bitter Moon, The Interpreter and Blackmail.