Walter Kittel
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Those other aspects, as if those other aspects should minimize or negate, as you put it, 'the scandal'? That's like thinking the water is clear except for the mud in it. In my post above I acknowledged that they were a good team and good ballplayers. Yet they still felt a need to cheat. And yet no Astros players were punished for that. They're all still doing what they love to do. What's the lesson there?
The organization had some punishments, but they still tweeted out a clueless tweet about winning: "You keep hating. We'll keep winning." Do you have any recognition that was wrong? It comes from having no consequences for the cheating.
No consequences = this is not going away no matter how well the Astros play. Americans are an unusully forgiving people for the most part. If the players and management even remotely suggested they had any remorse for this people might let it go, but they have not and worse, they've thrown it back in people's faces by being clueless as to why it keeps being thrown back at them.
Well, I certainly would have handled things differently if I were in their situation. I personally think that sort of tweet represents a 'circling of the wagons' an 'us vs. the world' sort of viewpoint. I also think that part of the reason why a tweet like that exists is the perception from the Astro's organization that some folks won't be satisfied with almost any sort of punishment leveled against the club and players. As far as the lack of punishment goes, I personally put that on Manfred and the Player's Association although I will admit I am not that well versed on the intricacies of what went on behind the scenes.
I've followed the 'stros since they were the Colt 45s and I am not going to stop following. If you believe some insiders other clubs were doing similar things, but everyone jumps on the Astros. That doesn't make what they did right and as I stated above I would have handled things differently. But the notion that the Astros are the only club to cheat or look for a competitive advantage strikes me as disingenuous or very selective. That is part of the reason why I still follow the club. This post is probably the most I've thought about it since the story broke. In a world with COVID-19 and a host of other problems, this is pretty small potatoes.
Just my S0.02. I don't expect to change anyone's opinion.
- Walter.