Sam Cooke coming to Super Audio...

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  1. Lee Scoggins

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    Almost any original Sam Cooke album release on CD would be good news.

    I was recently listening to his A CHANGE IS GONNA COME, and was thinking it would have been a good entry in the protest song thread of a few months ago.

    For years I have looked for a track called A COUSIN OF MINE, from about '64, which to my knowledge has never been on CD.

    And while ABKO gets mentioned, can we ask again, where are the Cameo-Parkway records [​IMG]
     
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    John,

    I agree. I think ABKCO is sitting on some other "gold" that should be released.

    I'm just glad to have more quality music being released in hirez.

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    I see on upcoming DVD releases at Amazon that "Sam Cooke - Legend" is to come out 17 June.

    I think this may be a different product than the audio CD, but there is (as often the case) no useful info about the DVD contents. [​IMG]
     
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    Found Sam Cooke's Portraits of A Legend 1951-1964 at Best Buy for $14.99 in the regular CD section (but none of the other SACD titles were available in the store). Listening to the CD layer (at work system Panasonic SL-S320 -> Grado RA-1 amp (via Straightwire mini to RCA) -> Grado SR225 Headphones) and love it. Can't wait to get home to check out this disc on my Sony 222ES player. They included a nice liner notes book for each song on the disc. Nice disc so far.
     
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    Maybe they'll remaster them from the original tapes instead of recent PCM transfers. [​IMG]
     
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    Can't wait to get my copy which circuitcity.com has shipped and hopefully I'll have Thurs. or Fri. I have a greatest hits compilation on CD from RCA so I will have something to compare it to.
     
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    Ken,

    We may be getting into matters of sematics or grammar. I have meant all along that the Rolling Stones SACDs were analog->PCM->DSD.

    In fact, that is why I made my original post - hoping that the Cooke discs were fresh transfers.

    When Lee said "That's what they did for the Stones discs.", I thought that he meant "remastered them from the original tapes".

    Gee, is Bob Ludwig implying that PCM conversion can be transparent? [​IMG]
     
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    Aha! Pronoun trouble.

    I suspect (based on the number of people given credit for "digital transfers" in addition to Ludwig) that the Sam Cooke stuff was done just like the Stones stuff. The good news based on what I have heard so far (just the PCM layer of "Portrait of a Legend") is that the tracks seem to have appropriate amounts of tape hiss and no signs of digital limiting/compression.

    I got a kick out of the Ludwig interview as he indicated that the high-res PCM would be transparent and then indicated that for The Police stuff, for which he was left to his own devices, "Universal asked me if I would prefer working from the original tapes and of course I said yes." He is definitely a pragmatist. [​IMG]

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    Michael and Ken,

    My understanding was that some of the Stones tapes were analog to DSD. There may have been some hirez PCM conversion since Bob had an older workstation at that time, but these workstations are generally around 350Khz so you would not hear it anyway unless you have really good ears and a stellar stereo.

     
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    Just out of curiosity, if the tapes have been transferred to DSD already, what exactly does a mastering engineer do after that?

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    Since the "fiddling with eq" piece is usually the step in mastering that separates the pretenders from the contenders, it just seems strange to me that a mastering engineer on an audiophile release would not be involved with the original transfer. Any subsequent eq would have to be either in the digital domain (eww!) or involve another D-A-D conversion process.

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