Kino-Lorber Insider Announcement Thread (Read Guidelines Post #3) (18 Viewers)

[skylark68]

It's in my copy under Star Pilot:

You had me at Gordon Mitchell. That guy was great!

 

[Robert Crawford]

Sunday's Facebook Announcement:

Coming Soon on 4KUHD!

Brand New HDR/Dolby Vision Master!

HIGH NOON (1952) Starring Gary Cooper, Grace Kelly, Thomas Mitchell, Lloyd Bridges, Katy Jurado, Otto Kruger, Lee Van Cleef, Lon Chaney Jr., Harry Morgan, Ian MacDonald, Sheb Wooley & Robert J. Wilke – Shot by Floyd Crosby (Man in the Dark) – Music by Dimitri Tiomkin (Rio Bravo) – Screenplay by Carl Foreman (The Bridge on the the River Kwai) – Produced by Stanley Kramer (Judgment at Nuremberg) – Directed by Fred Zinnemann (From Here to Eternity).

Oscar Winner: Best Actor (Cooper)
Oscar Winner: Best Editing (Elmo Williams, Harry Gerstad)
Oscar Winner: Best Song (Tiomkin, Ned Washington)
Oscar Winner: Best Score (Tiomkin)
Oscar Nominee: Best Picture (Kramer)
Oscar Nominee: Best Director (Zinnnemann)
Oscar Nominee: Best Screenplay (Foreman)

 

[Robert Crawford]

This should be interesting as I previously bought it on Blu-ray, three different times. What the hell, buying it a fourth time on 4K/UHD isn't crazy considering that I think it's the best western ever filmed.

 

[jim_falconer]

Absolutely fantastic western, top 10! But I’m pretty happy with my current BD, so I’ll stick with that one when I want watch again

 

[haineshisway]

And what is this master FROM? If it's the same source as the other releases we should know that.

 

[Robert Crawford]

And what is this master FROM? If it's the same source as the other releases we should know that.

Since the 2019 MOC Blu-ray and 2016 Olive Signature Blu-ray stated they were derived from probably the same 4K digital restoration. I'm hoping Kino tells us this a newer 4K scan.

 

[Keith Cobby]

Grace Kelly in 4k is a tempter, but will wait on reviews.

 

[battlebeast]

Is this 4k only? I hope it’s packed full of bonus features… there are a couple of great “making of” features out there…

I will get it if it is on Blu and an upgrade from the previous release.

 

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Since the 2019 MOC Blu-ray and 2016 Olive Signature Blu-ray stated they were derived from probably the same 4K digital restoration. I'm hoping Kino tells us this a newer 4K scan.


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If a 16-bit 4K scan was done already, I doubt we would do a new scan, why would we. But since there's no HDR/Dolby Vision master, the restoration would be a new one.

 

[Kino Lorber Insider]

Is this 4k only? I hope it’s packed full of bonus features… there are a couple of great “making of” features out there…

I will get it if it is on Blu and an upgrade from the previous release.

Both 4K and Blu-ray.

 

[Robert Crawford]

If a 16-bit 4K scan was done already, I doubt we would do a new scan, why would we. But since there's no HDR/Dolby Vision master, the restoration would be a new one.

Some people like Robert Harris would argue that adding a layer of HDR/Dolby Vision isn't really a restoration. IMO, they have a valid point.

 

[Robert Harris]

Some people like Robert Harris would argue that adding a layer of HDR/Dolby Vision isn't really a restoration. IMO, they have a valid point.

Using the “old” 4k scan is the sensible way to go. I can see zero rationale for Kino to support a new one. Whether HDR is added or not, and I would prefer not, the earlier restorative functions - clean-up of scratches, tears (if any) would suffice as a simple form of restoration in my book.

Let’s just hope that the 4k .dpx files from the base scan were saved to LTO.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Using the “old” 4k scan is the sensible way to go. I can see zero rationale for Kino to support a new one. Whether HDR is added or not, and I would prefer not, the earlier restorative functions - clean-up of scratches, tears (if any) would suffice as a simple form of restoration in my book.

Let’s just hope that the 4k .dpx files from the base scan were saved to LTO.

Well, it looks like the decision to add HDR has been made. As to the rest of your comments, I totally agree with you.

 

[uncledougie]

Would the use of HDR somehow over sharpen the picture and add graininess or noise, modify black levels detrimentally? I suppose it is dependent on who’s handling the processing and how carefully.

 

[battlebeast]

Both 4K and Blu-ray.

Thank you Mr. Insider! Day one purchase!

 

[Robert Crawford]

Would the use of HDR somehow over sharpen the picture and add graininess or noise, modify black levels detrimentally? I suppose it is dependent on who’s handling the processing and how carefully.

Other black and white films from that film era like 12 Angry Men, Paths of Glory and The Killing looked fine with HDR that Kino released on 4K/UHD.

 

[haineshisway]

I'll ask again: What was the 4K scan FROM? Has that question ever been answered? Mr. Harris?

 

[Robert Harris]

I'll ask again: What was the 4K scan FROM? Has that question ever been answered? Mr. Harris?

AFAIK, the OCN.

 

[PatrickDA]

Other black and white films from that film era like 12 Angry Men, Paths of Glory and The Killing looked fine with HDR that Kino released on 4K/UHD.

um....."12 Angry Men" had some grain storm issues here and there, but the other two looked perfect.

 

[Patrick McCart]

The Olive Signature Blu looks great, but this is a definite upgrade for me. I felt that Olive's supplements were a bit on the light side for their Signature line, especially compared to Eureka's. Count me in for the remastered He Walked By Night as well, as I only have the triple feature single disc ClassicFlix released that also included T-Men and Raw Deal.