Aspect Ratio Documentation (2 Viewers)

[Jari K]

And can you share the source of the info that the master is "zoomed"? Point is that could we stop this speculation and at least wait for the reviews/screencaps?

 

[Bob Furmanek]

No, I cannot.

 

[FoxyMulder]

And can you share the source of the info that the master is "zoomed"? Point is that could we stop this speculation and at least wait for the reviews/screencaps?

Mister Lime said in the Kino thread that heads were lopped off when they looked at it in 1.85:1, this suggests a zoomed in transfer, speculation maybe but educated speculation based on what the insider said.

 

[EddieLarkin]

If we definitely have the full, unzoomed frame, then 1.37:1 is absolutely fine. Everyone here should be able to zoom that to 1.78:1

Hardly. The only reason to buy Blu-ray over DVD is for the A/V quality. I wouldn't be happy with a DNR ridden transfer, or a transfer with awful colour, or a transfer I have to zoom and watch in 1480x834p

 

[Yorkshire]

Really?

Can you please share your source for that information?

If I could, do you not think I would have done so already?

If I were a betting man I'd wager we'll hear more as time goes on.

No matter, it's difficult to believe that, with such an important film, someone out there will have access to a 35m print, and will post images for us to compare.

Steve W

 

[Yorkshire]

Hardly. The only reason to buy Blu-ray over DVD is for the A/V quality. I wouldn't be happy with a DNR ridden transfer, or a transfer with awful colour, or a transfer I have to zoom and watch in 1480x834p

Well, I certainly agree on the DNR, etc.

I doubt very much that too many would notice the difference in resolution when zooming. But yes, it an ideal world it wouldn't be...ideal, which is why I said 'fine' as opposed to 'brilliant'.

I don't really understand the idea that 834p isn't a "reason to buy Blu-ray over DVD for the A/V quality". The difference between SD DVD and 834p is pretty large compared to 834p vs 1080p.

Steve W

 

[Bob Furmanek]

So you just made a false statement about the transfer not being zoomed in without any evidence?

Why?

 

[EddieLarkin]

No matter, it's difficult to believe that, with such an important film, someone out there will have access to a 35m print, and will post images for us to compare.

Zoomed or not, the transfer featured in this YT upload works fine in 1.78:1



If Kino have something even more zoomed than that might be, I dread to think what it may look like.

I doubt very much that too many would notice the difference in resolution when zooming.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I notice it quite easily.

 

[Jari K]

"I doubt very much that too many would notice the difference in resolution when zooming."Of course you'll notice it.

 

[Yorkshire]

So you just made a false statement about the transfer not being zoomed in without any evidence?

No.

 

[Yorkshire]

"I doubt very much that too many would notice the difference in resolution when zooming."Of course you'll notice it.

A few years ago the Greek AV society did a test using projectors which were identical other than one having a 1080 chip and the other 720. No one could tell the difference in resolution.

Steve W

 

[FoxyMulder]

A few years ago the Greek AV society did a test using projectors which were identical other than one having a 1080 chip and the other 720. No one could tell the difference in resolution.

Steve W

Did they check their eyesight before carrying out the test, i have had a 720p projector, i have had 720p monitors too, the difference between a 720p and 1080p projector and monitor is huge, i can see the difference immediately.

I wonder if that Greek AV society were sitting too far back to tell the difference or the material being used was poor, something doesn't sound right, did they de-focus the 1080p model, did they set it up incorrectly, it just doesn't sound right to me.

 

[Yorkshire]

Did they check their eyesight before carrying out the test, i have had a 720p projector, i have had 720p monitors too, the difference between a 720p and 1080p projector and monitor is huge, i can see the difference immediately.

Would you like a link?

Steve W

 

[Jari K]

Greek AV society? Too much sun there. They don't see that well.Seriously speaking, you can take some 4:3 film and use "zoom" from your tv. You don't see any difference?

 

[FoxyMulder]

Would you like a link?

Steve W

No, it would be pointless, i know what i see and the difference between 720p and 1080p is evident to me, fine detail is improved.

 

[Yorkshire]

Greek AV society? Too much sun there. They don't see that well.Seriously speaking, you can take some 4:3 film and use "zoom" from your tv. You don't see any difference?

But they have oregano crisps!

In answer to your question, no I don't 'notice'. If I stared I might see a difference, but in real-world viewing I don't notice.

Steve W

 

[Bob Furmanek]

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/332818-marty-blu-ray-review/#entry4111173

Windowboxed credits?

Hmm...

 

[FoxyMulder]

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topic/332818-marty-blu-ray-review/#entry4111173

Makes you wonder why the insider said heads were cropped off when they tried it at 1.85:1, no wonder we all got confused, it sounds from the review like this would work just fine at 1.85:1 but for whatever reason they chose full frame.

All they needed to do to keep us "happy" and less confused was to say it's not zoomed in, i don't recall them ever saying that.

 

[EddieLarkin]

Yeah, even the YT version doesn't crop heads (or the credits) when zoomed so who knows what they were on about. Sounds to me like someone trying to justify their boxy fetish.

 

[haineshisway]

If they'd matted down to 1.85 the window boxed credits AND opening scene, I just cannot imagine what that might have looked like. We may now know the reason they HAD to go full frame. So, the only question that remains is whether on top of the window boxing if it's also zoomed in - and frankly my GUESS would be yes because that's the only thing that would really explain window boxing the credits and opening scene (which probably comes directly out of the credits. We've seen that all too often in films on DVD - window boxing then zooming in afterwards.