Lord Dalek
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I say we nuke the entire thread from orbit.
Only way to be sure.
Only way to be sure.
Some folks like it. More power to them. It certainly had what appeared to be AI generated clarity. It’s Cameron’s film. I didn’t make it so he has the right to do what he wants. On the other hand, I have the right to watch the prior Blu-ray (though there was a fair amount of clean up there as well). We do have choices which is the good news.Flip Wilson, politically correct.
Not sure if facial hair or leper.
Ah, yes... Color Purple II: Lost Caverns.Next up, Todd Erwin’s extremely honest review of The Color Purple II.
Zarathustra has spuck. We have our disc.
I don't think it is clear yet if it was a 4k scan or not. It was finished in 2k and upscaled for the 4k release, but it may have originally been from a 4k scan. Needless to say the technology has improved since then so a new scan would have been better. It's apparently that Cameron doesn't want to apply all the "fixes" that went into the previous master, and so they went with the upscale route.One thing that is rather shocking, is the scan. I mean, come on, a brand new 2024 4K Blu-ray of Aliens, one of the best sci-fi movies ever and a fan favorite sure to get sales when released, and we don't get a 4K scan of the film to base the new disk master on?? Seems a little crazy... Having said that, one things seem clear, as someone else pointed out, a good 2K scans holds an impressive amount of detail. Still, it should have been a 4K negative scan, then we'd be all set with max detail and maybe even less need for as much grain removal. The only good news on that front is that there is room for another release later on that has a 100% 4K transfer chain from film to disk. Which should yield ultimate detail, and also allow for a more perfected DNR/advanced grain removal technique to be used with less artifacts and such.
I don't think it is clear yet if it was a 4k scan or not. It was finished in 2k and upscaled for the 4k release, but it may have originally been from a 4k scan. Needless to say the technology has improved since then so a new scan would have been better. It's apparently that Cameron doesn't want to apply all the "fixes" that went into the previous master, and so they went with the upscale route.
I don't think it is clear yet if it was a 4k scan or not. It was finished in 2k and upscaled for the 4k release, but it may have originally been from a 4k scan.
One thing that is rather shocking, is the scan. I mean, come on, a brand new 2024 4K Blu-ray of Aliens, one of the best sci-fi movies ever and a fan favorite sure to get sales when released, and we don't get a 4K scan of the film to base the new disk master on?? Seems a little crazy...
...so, almost all of the posts above are conjecture?
A new 4k scan, with color, could run $30-40k. Aliens won’t sell enough copies to warrant that expenditure.In what regard? We do now have confirmation that Aliens was upconverted from the 2K scan and master from 2010. But no, we don't know why a new 4K scan wasn't performed. Short of James Cameron explaining his rationale for that, which seems unlikely, all we can do is speculate.
I'm not deeply familiar with the cost of a new scan, but looking through my collection for movies that I believe had either recent 4K scans, or scans specifically for their UHD disc release, I see films like, The Princess Bride, Die Hard, Speed, Glory, The Thing, The Mask of Zorro, I think Aliens would easily outsell or at least match the sales of several of those titles. If a scan could be done for those I really don't see why Aliens couldn't be done.A new 4k scan, with color, could run $30-40k. Aliens won’t sell enough copies to warrant that expenditure.
A new 4k scan, with color, could run $30-40k. Aliens won’t sell enough copies to warrant that expenditure.
You'd think they'd at least get a discount for only using teal and orange, amiright?How much to do it without color?