You should return it for a refund.And, yes, Crawford, I've seen the Aliens UHD, and I hate the look of it.
You should return it for a refund.And, yes, Crawford, I've seen the Aliens UHD, and I hate the look of it.
Good for you.Don't worry, I didn't buy it myself.
Did you actually go back and read the comments that I mentioned? Because it sure doesn't sound like you did. I said the video has issues, and it does. The voice is AI generated, and while I'm not saying that the whole video was AI generated, the content was still cobbled from elsewhere. The narration reads verbatim (but unattributed) quotes that were written by other people, and considering that I know one of those people, it was pretty jarring hearing his words being spoken by a different (and unnatural sounding) voice.Did you watch the technical analysis of the HDR and colour space? It is pretty clear that the UHD contains nothing that isn't already on the BD. It's just filtered and sharpened.
As already explained before, the voice is AI generated because the guy is French (see here - but I also pics of his Dolby/Pathé/Hiventy conference at Lyon in 2023 :The voice is AI generated, and while I'm not saying that the whole video was AI generated, the content was still cobbled from elsewhere.
Which isn't the point tackled by the video, but rather about how the minimalist exploitation of HDR and WCG capabilities are most certainly an additionnal marker of the non-creation of a new better source for this remaster. By extension, it also means that the result most certainly is what it is not because of the movie's look, but because of the remaster's workflow, and that a more traditional remastering work would have allowed HDR and WCG to be used in a more able way.There are 4K releases based on 4K scans that are still just SDR in an HDR container. Including, I'm willing to bet, plenty of discs that you actually liked.
Sure, these are more advanced tools (which is why it doesn't look like, say, the previous Truman Show master or even the T2 4k remaster), but it's still filtering and sharpening, which is why you'll read people throwing these terms around : the tools have evolved, but not what they're doing nor the impact on the result. Call it Artificial filtering 3.0, if you prefer.They used AI algorithms to remove the grain, and AI algoriths to generate new detail from the image.
Well I'm not saying fans are always right, but it's not really debatable that what is being applied to these films changes them drastically compared to normal UHD releases. Such heavy usage of AI, DNR, EE etc. not by necessity but by a desire for the films to look differently to how they should look is revisionism. It's not in the spirit of the process as I said above. And then these are the only versions made available.I think you misunderstood the point I was making.
Josh said that filmmakers are human beings, and just as prone to making bad decisions as anyone else. I was saying that you could apply the same logic to the other side of the argument -- the fans are also human beings also prone to bad decisions.
So why is it always the assumption that the filmmaker made a bad decision and that the fans know best?
There has been, however, an ongoing underlying issue with some labs having such an intense color-signature, applied on so many of their works in a systemic manner, that it becomes intrusive in an obviously inaccurate way (because how many movies actually share such a close look ?). That's what lead, for instance, to Arrow to go back earlier in the restoration process of 4 Bruce Lee movies in order to make such it's before such an intrusive signature is applied. The end result still most likely is debatable because what is a 100% faithful color-grading, but it was 100% sure that the original color gradings of those restorations wasn't faithful.I think fans often complain about colour correction and here it's clear that there is not an obvious "correct" or "wrong." You need to apply colour correction regardless so likely someone will complain. Often their basis for what is "correct" is on an older release which is just as likely, if not more so, to be wrong than what new releases have.
Yep. I have mixed feelings about Aliens-for a casual viewer it will look great because it has more of a digital video quality that most folks seem to favor today but for film buffs, I suspect, these changes will put many off. Granted, we are a small but devoted group but this is really aimed at the modern audience for better or worse. Therewere some scenes that truly did benefit from the changes while others, it didn’t work for me. Again, I have mixed feelings about the UHD presentation of the film But also have to keep in mind thatmecen rhe earlier Blu had grain management used (though I do like the earlier Blu).Did you watch the technical analysis of the HDR and colour space? It is pretty clear that the UHD contains nothing that isn't already on the BD. It's just filtered and sharpened.
I've hated sharpening since the days of VHS. But, ok, VHS was so fuzzy and TVs were so small back then that it could be excused.
Then DVDs came along, and they would still apply sharpening. Why? Habit, I guess - and TVs hadn't really grown much in size.
Then we got HD and much bigger TVs! Surely now artificial sharpening would be a thing of the past! And it mostly was... mostly, but there were still loads of films on BD that had plenty of sharpening applied.
But with 4K there could absolutely not be a need for sharpening any longer, right? Surely THIS time we could be done with this s***? Nope, even when TVs and media have resolutions that the human eye can barely detect, we apparently still need artificial sharpening to give us those high-contrast edges that some people love - and we end up with these Cameron films and the awful Lord of the Rings UHDs. I find it utterly baffling.
And, yes, Crawford, I've seen the Aliens UHD, and I hate the look of it.
Flip Wilson, politically correct.I'm not going to call Cameron’s baby ugly but it isn’t the cutest baby I’ve seen.
Nah, I won’t give the film a banana.Flip Wilson, politically correct.
This thread is far more entertaining than The Bachelorette.