Listen, I don't know what to tell you, buddy. You seem determined to dig your heels in. I don't care what you "got" google to tell you about the "debut." It's just an algorithm and, in this case, It's giving you wrong information.
According to the John Fricke book that was released as a companion to the film's 50th anniversary, the full list of previews and towns is lost. There was definitely a preview (one of the earliest if not actually the first) on June 16th at the Pomona Fox Theater where it ran 112 minutes. There was also a preview on June 27th and one (date unknown) in San Louis Obispo. It was turned over for final negative cutting on July 6th and ran 101 minutes. The scenes must have been removed sometime over those three weeks.Anybody know the date of the preview?
It was supposedly in the Pomona cut (without the final animation.) Audiences were very willing to give "previews" a wide berth in terms of finishes since they knew they were incomplete rough cuts (often the music wasn't even finalized yet)And would the "beehive" scene been a part of that? I have heard it was not finished (adding in the animated bees) -- would they have enough time to complete that in time for wide release? Or was that cut earlier?
I've never noticed that, here's the scene; point it out to me.It was supposedly in the Pomona cut (without the final animation.) Audiences were very willing to give "previews" a wide berth in terms of finishes since they knew they were incomplete rough cuts (often the music wasn't even finalized yet)
I just see now that the first preview was held in either Santa Barbara or San Bernadino and after that first preview (and prior to Pomona) "The Jitterbug" and the Ray Bolger solo extension to "If I Only Had a Brain" were cut.
Interestingly, the excision of the "Beehive" scene resulted in a continuity error with Dorothy and her companions lined up in the wrong order. Because it was very noticeable, they flipped the film for that shot so their order matched up with the scene right before the cut. To do this, they had to print the flipped shot through the base rather than the emulsion, which is why that one shot has always looked softer than any other in the movie.
Camper is right, it's immediately before this clip. When the Tin Man puts out the witch's fireball with his hat, he's on the left side of the screen and the scarecrow is on the right. There's a cut to the witch disappearing into a puff of smoke and then a brief close up of Dorothy. The next shot (starting with "I'm not afraid of her!") is the flipped one, with the scarecrow now on the left of the screen and the Tin Man on the right. You can see it's noticeably less sharp due to the red and green negatives being exposed on the matrices through the base. (Ironically enough, for once, the blue negative was exposed through the emulsion since that one was flipped in camera and always exposed through the base.) Right AFTER that shot was originally the beehive scene and they moved around so that they were no longer standing in the right order. It left a noticeable error when the scene was cut so it was flipped to minimize the gap.I've never noticed that, here's the scene; point it out to me
Back....It's more that some have been examining Oz like the Zapruder film over the last month