Mark Y
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Although, at the time, I remember the general widespread opinion that the show was SO freakislhly unfunny, it seemed to have come from Mars.BobO'Link said:I watched both shows during that period. I can say without a doubt that, in spite of pretty much being a clone of SNL, Fridays was the better program. (Edited to add): I also was a loyal SNL viewer from the first episode. We'd all gather at *someone's* house on Saturday nights *just to watch*. It was truly "event" TV and tended to lead discussions for a few days.
I remembered SNL of the era being pretty impressive for a 90-minute live show done three times a month. Watched a bunch in fairly recent times (since the DVDs came out) and after a while started to get annoyed with all the drug references. I liked Fridays too, looking forward to seeing it again, but bracing myself for a letdown. Should still be fun.Radioman970 said:"freakishly unfunny" I think it was a matter of taste, maybe age too. I was 14 or so... thought everything on it was completely naughty, cool and hilarious.
Father Guido Sarducci might've dropped a few drug references for his audience in his monologues, and John Belushi might've let it slip, oh...one or two times. But SNL rarely wrote whole SKETCHES around drug jokes. Nor were they the central concept for running-sketch premises. The cast might've been a bit snowdrifted off-camera, but on camera, drugs simply weren't their own punchline. (At least, not until the Joe Piscopo years.)Mark Y said:I remembered SNL of the era being pretty impressive for a 90-minute live show done three times a month. Watched a bunch in fairly recent times (since the DVDs came out) and after a while started to get annoyed with all the drug references. I liked Fridays too, looking forward to seeing it again, but bracing myself for a letdown. Should still be fun.
There's a lot of truth there but as I originally posted SNL was in severe decline when Fridays began its run. While I enjoyed the series, and liked it better than SNL during the same time period, I was one of those proclaiming it a SNL clone/wannabe during the initial run. It can't hold a candle to the first 4 seasons of SNL. I disliked Kaufman then and still do. I've never found him to be particularly funny. I watched Fridays as much for Melanie Chartoff as anything else and it was a good fill in for the ailing SNL which was *less* funny in those years than Fridays at its worst (and it could be pretty bad). But when Fridays was "good" it could be very good. It will be interesting to see these episodes after all these years.Ejanss said:Although, at the time, I remember the general widespread opinion that the show was SO freakislhly unfunny, it seemed to have come from Mars.
The "How much of SNL were they stealing?" gripes turned into a whole abstract debate of "Why does NYC know how to be funny (in the late-70's/early-80's) and LA doesn't?" The discussions on that suggested some interesting cultural points: NYC is a "real" city and has real troubles to be funny about--Politics, headlines, the rat race of 9-5 workers, a city lived-in long enough to start bringing out all those personal grumbles that erupt when a half-million people are crammed into a small space... In LA, they're less experienced about being a city--They don't have seasons, and half the town is too preoccupied with celebrities, they don't really pay much attention to the rest of the world, and they find their own life funny: Drugs, trends, wacky minorities, drugs, annoyingly rich people, drugs, and, of course, drugs.
It didn't help that Lorne Michaels originally saw SNL as a "headline comedy" show back at the beginning, and had gotten his first cast from the two Second Cities that had experience at doing improv comedy bits on short notice. They WORKED for a living.
I'm guessing the revisionist love for the show isn't just about "Andy Kaufman was on it!" or "Two Seinfeld people started on it", I just remember, we wanted to get rid of this show so badly, somehow...Those who wonder how MadTV stayed so long on Fox somehow will probably understand.
Shout has a details page up. They show it to be 16 episodes on 5 discs "...With vintage musical performances (including Devo, Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers, The Cars, The Clash, KISS and more) as well as the show’s infamous guest appearances by the legendary Andy Kaufman..."Radioman970 said:Note:
It's being listed at 17.5 hours. Not quite 58 episodes... I hope things get worked out and there's a followup set. I guess I"ll keep my homemade DVDs I have. Sure didn't want to watch those things again. Darn music rights problems!!
Kaufman seems to be either a "You like Him" or "You don't like him" with little in between. I'm firmly in the "don't like" camp. IMHO his absolute best performances were on Taxi but I really didn't care for him on that show either. I've read that off camera he was a really sweet and reserved guy. A complete about face of his on-stage persona.Radioman970 said:16 shows. Well, not bad for a sampler. But I have high hopes they'll get the rest of the series out if this sells really well.
I'm a big Kaufman fan so it'll be all good. I have the famous appearance by him on my homemade copies of the show and it's still fun, but I was surprised to learn that some thought it was real. I wasn't even fooled when I watched the original airing. I don't think I had yet caught on to Andy's act (fully, anyway) but I knew it was just the show doing it's thing.
Very excited about this release. One I'd lost all hope for...
Shout's site shows the set to consist of 16 episodes (link in post 31). With the ~1050 minute runtime shown on Amazon that's about 65 minutes per show which is about right for late night programming in that era filling a 1 1/2 hour time slot.LeonaB said:Do we know if this "best of" set is going to have whole, complete episodes? What if (heaven forbid) they just do what they consider "best of" segments.
I remember watching the Thorogood one at my grandma's. I immediately called my cousin and he was watching it too. We thought Bad to the Bone was the coolest song in the history of songs.BobO'Link said:Yep... The episode with Shatner would be a fantastic inclusion! Based on the musical guests I'd like to see the episodes with Heart, Pat Benetar, Warren Zevon, King Crimson (with guest host Peter Fonda), and George Thorogood (with guest host George Carlin for a double wish).