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Now that I have an All Region blu ray player (modified my Oppo), been investigating slightly obscure (to me) labels. Kind of difficult to parse which different restorations are superior without definite guidance. Any thoughts on Indicator/Powerhouse "The Big Heat' over Twilight Time? 'The Chase' seemed to be available in several different versions and it was difficult to figure which was the one to get.
 

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There is no doubt an improved Cover Girl has been made available from Sony. It's currently available to purchase on iTunes, and if you click the trailer link on the iTunes page you get a two minute clip from the feature rather than a beat-up trailer to preview. It's a big improvement over the Twilight Time master.
 
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my go-to site is dvd beaver.com---- they do side by side comparisons of a particular title, like for

example when you look up dietrich's 'the devil is a woman' both the criterion and indicator review

& screen shots come up on the same page. a real good resource. scoll down & click on reviews to

find your titles
 
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The Eureka!/Masters of Cinema version of Cover Girl is light years better than the Twilight Time version. It's a dual disc release, and
I can confirm that the DVD is region 2 NTSC, and the Blu Ray is region B. I just re-tested it to be sure - the Blu Ray will not play when my player is set to region A.

Yet another reason to go all-region.
The DVD is Region 2 NTSC? Don’t you mean PAL?
 

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So how does one company release a bluray that is so poor compared to another's? It's really terrible. You think that the elements haven't survived and then somebody puts out a version that is far superior. I have seen prints of films that just in terms of images were clear 5 out of 5s like Singin in the Rain, Swing Time and the Selznick Tom Sawyer. Then their releases get clearly less than that on bluray. Have the prints I've seen in the intervening decades been lost forever or is it simply people aren't bothering to search them out?
 

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So how does one company release a bluray that is so poor compared to another's? It's really terrible. You think that the elements haven't survived and then somebody puts out a version that is far superior. I have seen prints of films that just in terms of images were clear 5 out of 5s like Singin in the Rain, Swing Time and the Selznick Tom Sawyer. Then their releases get clearly less than that on bluray. Have the prints I've seen in the intervening decades been lost forever or is it simply people aren't bothering to search them out?
Twilight Time's release was back in 2012 - an eternity in the home video business. Obviously Sony has found better materials to work with since then, along with constantly improving digital technology that allows things to be done that were impossible a decade ago.

The important thing is that studios are constantly upgrading many of their classics, rather than creating a master and saying "That's good enough".
 

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My concern is that of the 3 films I mentioned I already know that there are far better materials out there. Both Swing Time and Tom Sawyer are relatively recent releases so it will be a while before we see updates. These are titles that are not hard to find or to do research on. I'm afraid there are people doing this work who don't know any better. As I said the only possible explanation is that the people doing the work simply have not done their homework or the prints I saw are somehow lost. The 100th anniversary of Technicolor festival at the MOMA was a disaster. I have never seen a worse collection of prints in my life. I'm not sure if the curator had no idea what they were doing (I was told by an usher a number of people were complaining) or that its purpose was to show how Technicolor prints degrade over time. A huge disappointment.
 

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The DVD is Region 2 NTSC? Don’t you mean PAL?

No - NTSC. That's why I was so specific - I know most people would assume PAL. But the run time is the same for the DVD and the Blu Ray. This means no PAL speed-up - particularly nice for music (I am somewhat aware of PAL speed up with dialogue, but more aware of it with music).

Eureka also did dual discs, with an NTSC region 2 DVD and a region B Blu Ray, for other movies. Two that I own are Paper Moon and Pickup On South Street.
 

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