NeilKn
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- Nov 3, 2002
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Geoff, the TV is inside a big hole in the entertainment center. The center channel speaker sits on top of the TV. Scenerio #2. However, one of the first suggestions we ran into was to swap speakers to eliminate the speaker itself as a possible cause. In fact, that was Onkyo's technical support that advised doing so. So we took the original Onkyo right and left channels and set them in front of the entertainment center and TV, completely outside the enclosure, and connected the center channel wires to them ... one by one of course. The muffled sound continued, despite the different speakers, and their being outside the enclosure.
In future tries with the Klipsch center, the JBL N-Center, and the JBL S-Center, we first tried each sitting on top of the entertainment center, and also sitting on a wooden snack tray sitting in front of the TV mainly for ease in swapping them around ... but also to note how they sounded when out in the open. The N-Center provided a reasonably clear sound, more so than the Onkyo's. We liked the Klipsch, but it was a bit too bright for our taste, though clearer than the rest. The S-Center sounded even better than the N-Center (to be expected), almost as clear as the Klipsch, but a touch warmer, and we decided to go with it. The S-Center now resides on top of the TV, in the enclosure. It sits with its forward surface just forward of the TV screen, its back raised up on a rubber door stopper to point it directly at our ear level where we sit. It provides, as such, a clear dialog, no actors trying to eat the mic's.
Thank you though for your input. Also, to add a bit further though ... we found that with the same speakers, same setup, the Yamaha 630 provided a clear dialog, but was a bit too bright for our taste. The Onkyo 600 and the Denon 1803 were a close match, but we preferred the Denon's sounds, and features a bit more. We felt that the Denon offered a bit more in the way of individual user adjustments than the Onkyo, not by much, but it was a tad more adjustable. The Onkyo, on the other hand, was a bit easier to set up, less hassle, as there was a bit more handled automatically. We liked the way the Denon remembered the previous settings for each mode, where-as the Onkyo went back to normal .... such as individual channel adjustments in different modes.
In future tries with the Klipsch center, the JBL N-Center, and the JBL S-Center, we first tried each sitting on top of the entertainment center, and also sitting on a wooden snack tray sitting in front of the TV mainly for ease in swapping them around ... but also to note how they sounded when out in the open. The N-Center provided a reasonably clear sound, more so than the Onkyo's. We liked the Klipsch, but it was a bit too bright for our taste, though clearer than the rest. The S-Center sounded even better than the N-Center (to be expected), almost as clear as the Klipsch, but a touch warmer, and we decided to go with it. The S-Center now resides on top of the TV, in the enclosure. It sits with its forward surface just forward of the TV screen, its back raised up on a rubber door stopper to point it directly at our ear level where we sit. It provides, as such, a clear dialog, no actors trying to eat the mic's.
Thank you though for your input. Also, to add a bit further though ... we found that with the same speakers, same setup, the Yamaha 630 provided a clear dialog, but was a bit too bright for our taste. The Onkyo 600 and the Denon 1803 were a close match, but we preferred the Denon's sounds, and features a bit more. We felt that the Denon offered a bit more in the way of individual user adjustments than the Onkyo, not by much, but it was a tad more adjustable. The Onkyo, on the other hand, was a bit easier to set up, less hassle, as there was a bit more handled automatically. We liked the way the Denon remembered the previous settings for each mode, where-as the Onkyo went back to normal .... such as individual channel adjustments in different modes.
