Tommy R
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Well 1978 isn’t exactly day one, as the first movie was already out by then and planning of the second was underway. It’s been well documented that Lucas came up with the Vader being Luke’s father twist once the second film was being scripted. The outlines I’ve seen from those gigantic Rinzler books are very vague and don’t show any real plan for the original trilogy. Maybe somewhere he did have a “a son redeems a father” theme he put on a note at some point and wanted to explore, but he also had a fixation on having characters that were twins that he shoe-horned into Return of the Jedi by making Luke and Leia the twins, which, like Vader being Luke’s father, was not at all something he planned when making the first movie. One of my favorite bits of trivia is that Luke’s last name was still “Starkiller” when they were filming the movie in Tunisia and was changed to Skywalker at some point later in production.We can agree to disagree. There was an overall plan with the original trilogy, it's in Lucas's original notes. A plan is not details. A plan is "a son redeems a father." That's what the original trilogy is about. Lucas knew that on day one (see Star Wars Poster Book #2, 1978).
But I digress. The point of comparing the OT and ST is that the lack of planning CAN be not-a-problem. I actually don’t think the ST is really ALL that bad as a whole. If TFA just had a more original story thread to follow it would have been better. And Carrie Fisher’s untimely death was a legit real life problem to deal with with TROS. I don’t think the final product was all that bad and I enjoyed it way more than TFA, but I’ll admit it probably would have been better with Carrie and Trevorrow. They still would have all felt like very different films from each other, but the OT all feel very different if you put them under even a little scrutiny.