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Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by Aaron_Brez, Jul 10, 2003.
After watching Serenity,(the movie) I'd have to say River, and Simon are the main characters. Watching the series, I never would have guessed that.
Chuck Mayer said:
Bushwacked is generally regarded as the worst? Man I really love that episode. I love Shindig and The Train Job too. Truth be told, I'd be hard pressed to name the worst but, if forced, Safe and (gasp) Our Mrs Reynolds would probably be my choices. I agree with the criticisms of the main plot and one note villain of Heart of Gold but thought it was saved by some great moments and a kickass action sequence at the end. EDIT- Scratch that- Jaynetown is definitely my least favorite episode.
The term sci-fi is used nowadays to call lots of things sci-fi if they have the trappings of sci-fi...I am a stickler. Firefly is about the characters and their motivations and interrelationships. The science is irrelevant in the TV show, as is the characters response to it. Star Wars is a fantasy. Contact is sci-fi. Now the film is science-fiction, thanks to the Miranda element. It uses the medium to explore some aspects of technology. I use a different definition than you, Kris. Closer to Andy's, I'd wager. Spaceships are fantasy if they work by "magic"...and science-fiction if the workings matter. As for the sequels, I'd put money on my opinion there will be no theatrical sequels. It will never be a fact...just an educated opinion. Take care, Chuck
Actually, while originally Joss Whedon wanted to have a western feel for the series it wasn't until a few episodes into the series that he had abandoned the idea and went further into the sci fi aspect of the series. While I don't know the reasons why, it does add a warm atmosphere to the series. I knew. after watching the pilot episode that the series would center around Simon and River. I was also hoping for maybe another sequel but after hearing that the film took in only 10 million for the feature film for opening weekend I'm concerned that another film won't be made. I hope that by the time the fiulm finishes its run at theatres that it will warrant another film. Maybe even a trilogy. I plan to see the movie this weekend myself. I wholly disagree that the series isn't sci fi. Whoever made that comment needs to go back and re-evaluate what they think sci fi is. Sci Fi is a blending of Spaceships, the Future, technology conbined with elements of action and adventure.
Hey guys, just got this news bit from the Digital Bits website:
Here is a very broad definition of science fiction and the genre:
Holadem, Actually, he's probably correct, since there is a difference between "Sci-Fi" and Science Fiction in a lot of people's eyes. Often, when people talk about Sci-Fi, it is more about the popular aspect of science fiction, sometimes derogatory. It isn't simply an abbriviation of science fiction. Jason
I have how I define science-fiction, which I abbreviate sci-fi, and the people who consider anything with a spaceship sci-fi have their. I am satisfied that I am correct, and they misunderstand the term and apply it to numerous future fantasies. No worries. I consider Firefly the series a Western, with a few sci-fi elements thrown in. The movie moved towards sf a bit more. But the TV show was a basic western to me. And a damn good one, Chuck
Bought the series blind last week after hearing it was connected to this 'serenity' movie that was getting such great reviews, and my family and I loved it. Going to try and catch the movie this week. The series was great, and had I been aware of it's existence during it's original TV run, I would have been a regular viewer.
I've seen it three times so far, and I've enjoyed every viewing. I'd never seen Firefly prior to my initial viewing, so I didn't know what to expect. As for whether or not it's sci-fi, which I can't say much for the series (I'll have the DVD set this week), I'd say that the movie itself is definitely science fiction. We see the experimentation and scientific manipulation being done to River, and the impact that it makes on her psyche, as well as the chemical agents introduced to Miranda that created the Reavers. We don't need countless lines of technobabble (there's no Mr. Data here to oblige, not a single scientist in the crew of Serenity...aside from Simon perhaps...just folk) to see how they're being impacted by science. I think one of the more interesting aspects of Firefly/Serenity is that there is no lightspeed/warp travel, a seeming constant in scifi these days. It almost assumes that humans are alone in the universe...so that's who it focuses on: people. Anyways, love him or hate him (seems most online hate him with a particular vigor), Orson Scott Card, who does seem to know his way around the sci-fi, had extremely high praise for Serenity, even going so far as to call it the best sci-fi film ever, and an example of a film done the way he'd have to do film versions of his writings (such as Ender's Game). Not sure I'd go so far to say it's the best ever, but I will defer to his knowledge concerning science fiction.