Stephen L
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Okay I know its only opinion but Sonic at 58 c'mon something is wrong here.
23-Gunstar Heroes, Genesis, 1993
Finally, this game gets the respect it so richly deserves. I remember my brothers and I would play Gunstar Heroes for hours on end. One of the five best Genesis games ever!
If you had a console that could play all these games and you could buy 5 games, would you spend $50 on Tetris?
If I were going to be stuck on a desert island? Definitely!
95% of the games on the list do not support infinite single-player replay value.
80-Skies of Arcadia, Dreamcast, 2000 - I own it but I'm not wild about it. Random Battles are WEAK, it shows laziness on the producers part in my opinion.
I dunno - I'd say it should be much higher on this list - fab game and the best RPG I've seen in a long time.
In fact, seeing TWO 2D DC fighting games (Street Fighter iterations) making the top 100 is sad - games weren't that good and none of the 2d genre has really innovated since the 16 bit days.
If you had a console that could play all these games and you could buy 5 games, would you spend $50 on Tetris?
The fact that I'm still playing it today on my GBA should count for something? The fact that it's /still/ selling today on multiple platforms? The fact that it's one of the best loved & best selling games ever?
But of course, it's just a timewasting little diversion. It's not a REAL game. Just like Chess.
Come up with a separate, public domain, generic type game list and I'll place it on top (along with Solitaire and Pinball).
I'm not sure I understand the logic here. A game is a game. The only criteria here is that it must have been on a console. And the only reason that tetris is in the public domain is because it's so easy to copy. If I were making this list, Tetris would probably number 1 everytime. It is perfection.
I don't think I agree with Super Metroid, it's great, but not the best ever. I think the fact that we're all thinking about it since there's a new game coming might have contributed to it being so high.
Ok, I'm done.
Are you serious? These are still great games and the death of side scrolling platformers is a great loss. I think the Oddworld games proved that there is still some life in them (even though it's gone to 3D now too). I've been playing Mario 2 and 3 quite a bit recently and find them much more enjoyable than many of todays games, such as Max Payne which I'm practically forcing myself to play through.
(Feel like being Bold Today)
Im QUITE serious I think the death of side scrollers is due to the ABILITY of the console to do 3D. You don't believe that Rogue Squadron et al. is just a MODERN incarnation of Gradius? A GREAT game for it's time, but now it's VERY limiting because it's not realistic (Well as realistic as can be expected). I think I played like 4 seconds of Abe's Oddysey, Im not sure. I hated Crash Bandicoot (Missing from the list or did I not see it?) Max Payne is what it is, a technological demo. It will be another generation or 2 before a console can pull it off (And NO X-Box fan boys, 640x840 with 5.1 sound ISNT the same as 1600x1200 with EAX) I LOVED the Mario Brothers FOR THEIR TIME. I can't go back 2 16 color or 256 color flat 2D games with stereo. I've become SPOILED by 32 player multiplayer action, and 5 speaker surround, and 16-bit color goodness with 65000 colors to choose from. Videogames has LOST it's innocence and that's a shame.
Maniac Mansion - NES
I love this game! I should dig out a NES and a copy of this game and have some fun. I thought there was suppose to be a sequel in the works.
-Andre F
) I LOVED the Mario Brothers FOR THEIR TIME. I can't go back 2 16 color or 256 color flat 2D games with stereo. I've become SPOILED by 32 player multiplayer action, and 5 speaker surround, and 16-bit color goodness with 65000 colors to choose from. Videogames has LOST it's innocence and that's a shame.
Sorry to hear you feel that way. Games like Rayman and Mario are selling lot hotcakes for the GBA, so I think a lot of people may not agree.
I've become SPOILED by 32 player multiplayer action, and 5 speaker surround, and 16-bit color goodness with 65000 colors to choose from. Videogames has LOST it's innocence and that's a shame.
They've lost their 'innocence' to YOU. Don't take it out on everyone else as your ranting is prone to do.
I thought there was suppose to be a sequel in the works
You thought correct sir! The sequel to Maniac Mansion, which was originally a computer title from LucasArts, came out about six plus years ago, under the name Day of the Tentacle.
It stars Bernard from the first game, and his two roomates, Hoagie (a heavy metal roadie) and Laverne (a spaz med student). They fight the purple tentacle from the first game, who drinks radioactive waste, grows arms, and conquers the world.
It's available in various computer compilations from LucasArts, and as a bonus, there isn't a computer today that couldn't run it. The voices are great too, Les Nesman's actor (name eludes me) does the voice of Bernard .
One of the best jokes in the game is that it contains the ENTIRE first game, on a computer in one of the mansion rooms, as technology had advanced so far after the first one that they could easily put it in .
A GREAT game for it's time, but now it's VERY limiting because it's not realistic (Well as realistic as can be expected).
Screw being realistic. Part of what makes classic and classic-style games so great is that they are games, as opposed to simulations. "Tetris", "Ms. Pac-Man", "Joust", and the like have more in common with checkers or tag or Hungry Hungry Hippos than they do with some current games, which basically simulate a [fantasy] world and let the player explore.
Realism isn't a concern; they're deliberately abstract (or at least they embrace the abstraction imposed upon them by hardware limitations). To complain that these types of games aren't realistic is to miss the point entirely.
"Tetris", for example, is a near-perfect game. It can be learned in seconds and can be adjusted to challenge the player without altering its essential nature. Sure, it's not "real", but what flaws does it have as a game?