Widescreen DVD after HD-DVD?

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  1. Travis_W

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    I just want to say that I'm perfectly happy with current DVD. In fact I'm against HD-DVD because once we see how good it looks then we'll have to rebuy our entire collections because DVD won't equal to it. I'm wondering will widescreen still be available on DVD after most of the enthusiasts move to HD-DVD? I consider myself to be an enthusiast but it's going to take something spectacular for me to invest in HD-DVD. The current studio mentallity is that only the enthusiasts care for widescreen adn once HD-DVD comes along they may drop this option alltogether. For example widescreen VHS tapes are few and far between after DVD hit it big because the studios figured the ones who cared for it wer on the bandwagon. I want to stay with DVD for as long as I can but only if the films I love are in their OAR.
     
  2. Marc_Sulinski

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    I would think that they would continue to produce widescreen DVD, especially in the beginning of HD-DVD because I think the HD-DVD format may be one that takes a while to catch on.

    Also, just because a better format comes along, doesn't mean that the previous format is no longer usable. You can still watch all of your old DVDs. There are many memebers of this forum that maintain laserdisc collections.
     
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    Based on my prior experiences with various formats and the.. "mentality" of consumers, especially in North America, I would say that the shift to "fullscreen" would be inevitable but not complete. There will still be widescreen but I remember all too well when DVD first came out and we early adopters were onboard with the format. All titles were available in widescreen, and most of them were widescreen only.
     
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    Thanks for the insight guys. It's not that I'm against HD-DVD I just cringe at having to replace my collection. But from what I hear the machines will be backwards-compatible.
     
  7. Garrett Lundy

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    Since HDTV is by nature 1.78:1, I'd assume that widescreen would stick around because J6P doesn't want black-bars on the side of his tv.
     
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    A video store owner who actually knows something about their product?!?!

    My God man, PLEASE move your store next door to me! The house is for sale and it's only $585,000. There's not a lot of parking but there's a pretty white picket fence.

    At all the video stores in my town all I get are a bunch of teens manning the counter who have no concept of widescreen vs. fullscreen except to warn people who rent them. Though I only rent OAR I get the same thing over and over, "You know this has those bars, right?" Don't even think about asking for genres. If it doesn't blow-up or have crude humor they know nothing.

    There is one video store owner to whom I told my OAR-only policy and she did offer some hope, "Yeah, I've been thinking about getting a widescreen version of each movie, more people are asking for it." I was shocked but it's a start. Sad to say, I think it's because I live in a rather affluent community far from any movie theater other than the drive-in. There must be quite a few people with hometheaters. I've heard stories from local electronics people that my town is full of really nice home theaters but other than my own [​IMG] , I haven't seen any of them. I just hope it's enough to pressure the local video stores to act.

    As a side note my sister, who lives in Vermont, drives 30 miles to a rental store in Montpelier for some great titles. It's the only video store I've ever seen that has Salo (under lock and key) for rent. In fact they have the entire Criterion library along with a few no-region Apex players you can rent. Yes you have put down a security deposit on some of the titles (like the oop Criterions) but it's just astounding the variety of foreign and unusual titles on DVD and VHS (and even LD!) they have. Here I live in a town the same size as Montpelier and we have 2 video stores, none of which remotely seem devoted to good film. It's rather sad.

    Sorry to hijack the thread but it shows what one good video store can do for a community. They bother to educate the customers, know their products, and keep track of what each customer likes so they can make recommendations.

    More power to you!
     
  10. Marc_Sulinski

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    You realize that when the new HD-DVD players start coming out that your current DVD player will still work, right? Even if the new players are not backwards-compatible, you can still use your current player and still buy a new regular DVD player also.

    Due to the massive success of DVDs, I think that it will be a long time before you can't buy a DVD player.
     
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    When HD-DVD hits, I only plan on rebuying my favorites in my current collection and will purchase new titles on HD-DVD.

    I have realized I have too many titles on the shelf that just sit there to justify rebuying them.
     
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    Charlie,

    While I share your passion for optical-HD software, your dismissal of DVD:

     
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    [​IMG] This format(HD)will be here quicker than you can blink
    your eyes...one of the main reasons is Plasma and other new
    widescreen TV sales...tube going to be dead soon with with flat screen prices droping....Having a Hi-Def TV there are
    BIG differences....HD-DVD will be tough to beat for a long time but....never say never but I predict it not be PICTURE QUALITY ALONE that will be the difference....Hello? Wake up!
    Audio is 50% of the experience here...you know hi def will be 7.1 or 8.1 DD or DTS and that combined with better picture will KICK dvd's ASSSSSSSS.[​IMG]
     
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    Movies are already being shown in 2.35:1 HD widescreen on HBO (as well as in pan and scan 16X9) so why wouldn't it be done the same way on DVD HD? The widescreen options will all be the same as now, only 16X9 instead of 4X3 and high definition instead of NTSC.
     
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    That would be true( sound quality isnt in a lot of homes) a few years ago, but hometheater has gone MAINSTREAM...CONSUMERS ARE MORE AWARE OF QUALITY AND THE DIFFERENCES involved. Hometheaters are now sold in boxs not in specialty stores..there also is a greater awareness or acceptance of improving TECH especially in computer chips,
    ditigal cameras etc....with inovation comes a new wave of
    buyers...I asked a stanger the other day this question:
    why did you buy a dvd player-his first response better picture quality. With Hidef dvd the ADVANTAGE OVER DVD is the fact that anyperson who sees a HIDEF TV picture will immedately know the quality...you dont have to own the tv in order to be aware of the quality....I was in costo looking at a plamsa when this guy next to me says...the picture is amazing...look the word is spreading...One factor could be the backward compatiablity if the RED format is chosen. No 7.1 will not be in every house...But
    do not discount the importance of sound..now even my digitial non-hidef channels are broadcast is DD. You can put your head in a bag when this tidal wave hits...but its coming.....right along with hi-def....and consumers will NOT buy an inferior product when there TV picture looks better, clearer..they will demand or purchase EQUALITY-
    THAT MEANS hd-dvd WILL BE THE KING....Hail to the king baby....[​IMG]
     
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