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Pioneer 711 vs. 811

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Mark Fitzsimmons, Dec 15, 2002.

  1. Mark Fitzsimmons

    Mark Fitzsimmons Supporting Actor

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    In comparing the two I notice two real differences.

    The 811 does 6.1
    The 811 has preamp outs on all channels

    I will not be using external amplification.
    I will not be using 6.1 (don't have room)

    Since I will not be using either of the features that the 811 has to offer over the 711, is it still wise to get the 811? Will there be a difference in sound, or are there other features I am overlooking?

    I am currently using a Kenwood VR-507 reciever. As I turn up the volume loud (within around -10 of reference) there is noticable background hiss on all channels. Will a higher quality reciever cut down on this?
    I am hoping this Pioneer will have higher quality amps to cut down on distortion and clipping.

    TIA
    -Mark
     
  2. Nick Cerretti

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    I'd still take the 811 over the 711. I was in the same boat you were in about a week ago. No plans for external amps, and no room for 6.1, but I decided the 811 had one feature the 711 didn't have: future-proofing. I sure as hell didn't want to spend money for another receiver anytime soon to get all the extra formats, especially considering the 811 is only $100 more. Of course, take this with a grain of salt as I ordered a H/K 320 instead [​IMG] .
    I imagine any hiss the 711/811 is at very high volumes. I think a couple of owners said they could only hear the hiss at maybe a foot away from the speaker at the volume they listened to. Also, check your speaker wire. I think the main cause in the hiss is crappy wire. Get some Home Depot 12/16 gauge.
     
  3. Mark Fitzsimmons

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    Thanks for your help.

    I'm using 12 gauge from knukoncepts.com

    I had some home depot, but I like this alot more, it is much easier to work with and has a higher strand count: twisting the ends is alot easier on the hands and its more flexable.

    Its terminated with gold plated bananas.


    The hiss is pretty wierd...

    Reference is set at -20 on my reciever

    If I am at -28 I can kinda hear the hiss, then when I turn it to -27 it like steps up to another level of hiss, then again at -24 it steps up to an even higher level of hiss. There is a definite and obvious change in the amount of hiss when I change the level just 1 db; and it only happens at certain spots. Strange?

    I'd like a reciever that is capable of playing at higher levels cleaner than my current reciever. I have a more than capable sub (DIY Tempest) now I just need to improve the rest of my sound. I have JBL Studio Series speakers.

    --Still looking for more opinions--
     
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    Any other help?

    Does the 811 have components that would make it better than the 711 even for 5.1 or stereo listening? i.e. a better power supply?
     
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    I think they're identical, aside from the full preouts, extra amp, and the 6.1 formats.
     
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  8. Mark Fitzsimmons

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    Thanks for the help.

    I think I'll just go for the 811 (more bragging rights, eh?)

    There is a slim chance that we may be moving, which will allow me to have a theater that will accomidate 6.1 - so might as well go for it anyway right, no regrets?
     

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