Paradigm Servo 15 v2 (1 Viewer)

[RobertS]

Anyone know what the price is going to be on the Servo 15 v2? I am thinking of trading in my PW 2200 for one and was wondering the difference in price and if it is worth the added cost.

thanks,

Rob

 

[Shane Martin]

Last I read the MSRP is $2400 IIRC for this sub. That's a premium price over the last one. I won't say what I'd recommend but at $2k, you have lots of options unless you planned on spending less.

 

[RobertS]

Shane,

thanks for the reply, I was hoping the msrp would be under 2,000. My dealer lets you upgrade speakers within a year so I would have to go with a brand they carry, so I am limited on my choices. I am very happy with the PW 2200 for movies but started to get the upgrade bug. I am switching my front speakers to studio 40's and the center to the cc570 along with the ADP 470 for the surrounds, I was thinking if I traded the PW 2200 in would it be worth the added cost of 1400 dollars.

Rob

 

[ChrisHeflen]

Have you considered the seismic 12.
Check out a review here.

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...er-8-2004.html

 

[RobertS]

Chris,

thanks for the review, I might have to consider it with the cost of the new servo 15. I like the less distortion the servo 15 puts out and I would think it would sound better for music listening. The smaller size would be nice for moving it around considering the new servo 15 is 114lbs and half a foot bigger. I will have to go in and listen to both for myself. My dealer has a new servo 15 in but doesn't have it set up yet or pricing on it. They are the only Paradigm dealer in Minneapolis so I know they won't budge allot on price but at least wanted to know what people in other areas are asking for it.

Rob

 

[PaulT]

Rob, I have a Servo15v1 and have enjoyed the h*ll out of it for the last couple of years. It was a major step up IMHO from the PW Series.

As far as the v2 goes, you are basically getting a slightly downgraded driver from the Signature Servo and a plain cabinet rather than the fancy wood one. The amp plate I believe is the same as the Signature unit with some changes to the crossover, but your Dealer will be able to give you more info in that regard. One b*tch I have is there is no crossover bypass on the v2 unit. In that price point most people would be doing the crossover adjustments in their Pre/Processors. I know in the case of the 15v1 there is no internal crossover and I do not use the external X30 I got with it, so my preamp does all the work.

If you can get a pretty good trade in on your 2200, then it would make the price of the v2 easier to take. I am a fan of Servo Subs and would not be pleased with the Seismic Series due to high distortion levels - even though the thing really delves down deep.

I'm running the other speakers you are looking at getting and the only tough decision I would make if I did it again would be whether or not to get 20's for the surrounds rather than the ADP's. In my case I am listening to more and more DVD-A/SACD and find the dipoles too dispersed for MC Music. Certainly no complaints for Movies

 

[RobertS]

Paul,

I would get the full price I paid last year $929.00 to put towards the servo 15. I don't listen to SACD or DVD-A yet but plan on doing so in the near future so I will have to think about getting the studio 20's instead of the ADP 470. I am hoping to upgrade next year to the signature line but that is a ways away.

Rob

 

[London Lawson]

2000 dollar sub?? sheesh..ill stick with my 200 dollar pawn shop special pw2200. i couldnt imagine more bass than that...thats insane!(i stepped up from a aiwa all in the box sub)

 

[Levesque]

RobertS.

I'm really happy with my Signature Servo. Awesome sub. I was using a Servo-15 v1 before the Sig.

But if you are concerned about the price of the Servo-15 v2, why not just try to find a used Servo-15 v1 instead? They are easy to find, and the price will be really nice, now that they are discontinued.

 

[PaulT]

Not really
A Genelec HTS6 (7500$) or a Servodrive 1812 (15000$) might be 'approaching' insane.

Robert,

If you are going to upgrade to the Sig line at some point, then Levesques suggestion would be a thought. Used v1's show up at around the 900-1000$ price point on Audiogon now and again.

There is one there now (Louisiana) for $1000 with an X-30.
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls....ubw&1116313464
Also, in Ontario, Canada for 950CAD (about 775USD):
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/detai...o_15_subwoofer

I've posted the links as they are not my units. Shipping these things would be pricey....

 

[RobertS]

Levesque,

First off, I have seen the pics of your system and it is unbelievable, I hope to have a system like yours one day. I have been putting my system together without taking out a loan or putting it on the credit card so the speaker upgrade my dealer lets you do has been a great way for me to move up from the monitor line to the studio line and eventually the signature line next year. I have had no problems with the PW 2200 for movies but music is another story although it hits low for movies IMHO its a little sloppy for music. My dealer has a servo 15 v2 in but he didn't know the pricing on it or have it set up yet to demo, they have a meeting on Tuesday night with the Paradigm reps so he should have more info for me on Wednesday. I was just trying to get an idea on what people are paying for one so I can bargain with my dealer.

Paul,

I didn't even think about Audiogon, but I feel that if I am going to upgrade to the Sig s4 next year then the servo 15 v2 would be a better match. I am not to concerned about the price I just want to make sure the price is worth the performance upgrade from the PW 2200 and it sounds like it is.

Thanks,

Rob

 

[PaulT]

Well, you will be happy with either the v1 or v2 as compared to the PW. I have not had the opportunity to listen beyond the v1 series (they had no Sig Sub but I was blown away by the S4's when I heard them - that will be my next upgrade path - please make it stop....)

Unfortunately with Levesque and myself being Canucks, any prices we could pass along would not have a good bearing on what the US dealers are asking. I think if you have a good relationship with your dealer (and he obviously sees you are moving up the line fairly quickly), then I would expect that he should give you a good deal.

Good luck and let us know if you do go with the v2 what you think.

 

[Levesque]

RobertS.

Thank you for the kind words. And btw, I did build up my system just like you, w/o making a loan, and by taking small steps at a time.

Can you imagine I did start with 6 computer speakers 8 years ago, with a 300$ receiver. And then I got 6 Atoms+ PDR10, then Mini-Monitors all around, then Reference serie speakers, and now the Sigs.

Unfortunately like PaulT just told you, Canadian pricing on Paradigm/Anthem equipment is not really like those of the "regular" US dealers pricing. I think the discounts are bigger here.

The Sigs S4 with a good sub like the Servo-15 v2 will make a really nice set-up. But I really think you should take a good look at the SVS subs also. In the US, SVS are tough to beat. Don't limit yourself to Paradigm subs.

 

[RobertS]

Thanks again guys for the info, I am hoping once I get to the Sig line I will be happy with the sound and done upgrading, but by that time I will be thinking about going with separates instead of a receiver, a new projector, etc, etc... I guess the upgrading never really ends. I will have to wait until Wednesday to hear the servo 15 v2 but it sounds like it will be a night and day difference from the PW 2200.

Rob