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richardburton84

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I keep in mind something one of my grade school teachers said: Always read the book. Don't depend on the Disney version.

That’s definitely the case for this particular film, as my previous post implied. I liked The Black Cauldron when I first saw it (even without knowing anything about the edits made to the film), but my appreciation for the film went down considerably once I read the books and realized how much Disney bowdlerized them.
 

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Don't depend on the Disney version.

As is the case with any adaptation, that depends on your relationship to the novel. Just because a movie is different or takes considerable liberties with the source material does not automatically make the film inferior or invalid.

If you look at Disney's The Black Cauldron as it is, I think it works.

If you're comparing something to the source material, then obviously your perspective is different depending on your affection for the original source.
 

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As is the case with any adaptation, that depends on your relationship to the novel. Just because a movie is different or takes considerable liberties with the source material does not automatically make the film inferior or invalid.

If you look at Disney's The Black Cauldron as it is, I think it works.

If you're comparing something to the source material, then obviously your perspective is different depending on your affection for the original source.
I don't think that she was implying necessarily that one is inferior to the other, but for the purposes of a book report, don't rely on the movie. In other words, don't pull a Beaver Cleaver ;) You are right though in that you can't expect a 90 minute film to capture every iota of the source material. Ultimately, while it's inevitable for the film to be compared to the book, it should really be judged on its own merits.
 

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for the purposes of a book report, don't rely on the movie.

That I unequivocally agree with, and people who do that are asking for trouble. Even worse than that would be people who just copy the back of the book and don't expect the teacher to notice. I remember once in middle school, we were allowed to choose our own book report subjects, but the teacher asked us to pick something we would really read. Some other kid chose Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (before the movies started coming out) which was a recent book. The teacher said that was fine as long as he was prepared to actually read the whole thing. The book reports were oral in front of the class a few weeks later. I knew immediately that he memorized the summary of the book from the jacket and just recited that. Of course, the teacher had also seen that book too and knew that it was the jacket copy and I'm quite sure he failed the kid. I never quite understood why this student would have chosen a 734-page book if he wasn't going to finish it when he could have chosen something that was 200 pages and actually finished it and have actually done a report. It always amazes me how stupid students think teachers are in that they assume they can get away with things like that as though the teacher doesn't have access to a copy of the book to check that. Especially a big high-profile book like Harry Potter.
 

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It always amazes me how stupid students think teachers are

It’s an important learning experience. It’s a natural developmental thing to want to see how much you can get away with, and it’s important then to not get away with everything so you learn actions have consequences. Sometimes falling a paper or semester can be more important developmentally than getting an “A” would have been :)
 

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As is the case with any adaptation, that depends on your relationship to the novel. Just because a movie is different or takes considerable liberties with the source material does not automatically make the film inferior or invalid.

I like to say, as an adaptation of Philip Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?, Blade Runner leaves a lot to be desired. But I would not want to live in a world that did not have Blade Runner in it.
 

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It’s an important learning experience. It’s a natural developmental thing to want to see how much you can get away with, and it’s important then to not get away with everything so you learn actions have consequences. Sometimes falling a paper or semester can be more important developmentally than getting an “A” would have been :)
...sounds like a 'splanation to the parentals for what all of the east coast teachers called "bad marks" ;) ...'
 

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I wonder why Black Cauldron was issued as a DMC exclusive. As an animated feature , it seems to me this should have gotten a general release like other minor Disney features such as Sword In The Stone , or Great Mouse Detective.
It seems to me , that the “exclusive” format should be saved for films that deserve a Blu ray release but maybe aren’t popular enough to warrant a general release. Things like Shaggy Dog, Johnny Tremain, or Darby O’Gill.
I’ll be buying Black Cauldron, but I wish we could get some of those older titles!
Incidentally, I’ve been a DMC member since the VHS days!!
 

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It seems to me , that the “exclusive” format should be saved for films that deserve a Blu ray release but maybe aren’t popular enough to warrant a general release.

I think Disney believes that The Black Cauldron fits that description. While I am a fan of it, and its presence in the Walt Disney Feature Animation canon secures its place in the lists of film history, it is probably one of their least-selling such titles. So that's why. It is readily available at other retailers on DVD. Plus it is for sale in HD on digital platforms and included with the cost of a Disney+ subscription.

How many people do you think want this movie on Blu-ray and won't pay to get it from DMC? Even people like Arthur who prefer to get it from resellers will represent profit for DMC because the resellers have to get it from DMC in the first place. I seriously doubt that Disney is losing money on this release by not making it a wide release.

The fans who want it will jump through Disney's hoops to get it. Everyone else probably doesn't care to have it anyway.

And by the way I say this from a business perspective. I love the film so I'm not saying this disparately toward it.
 
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