Miles Davis Cookin'

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  1. Mike Broadman

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    I just got my SACD of Miles Davis' classic album Cookin'. Highly recommended documentation of the classic quintet, um, cooking.

    Anyway, it sounds really great. It is also a hybrid. However, I already own the 20-bit "commemorative" edition of the same album on CD. Has anyone heard these back-to-back and offer their opinion comparing the CD and the CD layer of the SACD? I'm trying to figure out if I should keep the CD.

    Part of me wants to keep it just because it may be a limited edition disc, but I only like having two of the exact same music.

    In general, do you guys have the CD versions of albums you have on high-res formats?

    NP: Bach, Brandenburg Concertos, DVD-A
     
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    Mike,
    I love this disc. I usually only buy SACD if I know it is coming out. Actually, I have been making an exception because I purchased some Rudy Van Gelder editions of classics since Tower had a $8.99 sale.
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    Mike, thanks for the info. on the Cookin' SACD. I haven't seen the SACD in a store yet, but I've been thinking of picking up the commemorative CD at the very least.

    I have the CD versions of every album I have on SACD. I buy SACDs of music I like, and because of this, I often want to listen to this music in the car and at work. SACDs do me no good outside of my house. Of course, with hybrid discs, I can kill two birds with one stone.
     
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    Keith,

    Yeah, with the hybrids, you don't need the CD. But in this case, I already owned the CD before getting the hybrid. I'm trying to decide whether or not I want to sell it (I always insist on getting rid of stuff I won't listen to).

    This same thing will pop with Bill Evan's Waltz for Debby and Sonny Rollin's Way Out West, which are also hybrid SACDs and I also have the fancy CD versions.

    NP: Peter Gabriel, So, remastered CD, which if it comes out on high-res would create the same quandry.
     
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    Mike, I actually do have the standard CD version of some hybrids. Rebecca Pidgeon The Raven and Telarc's The Film Music of Jerry Goldsmith are examples. I've decided to keep them. When I want that music for the car or office, I grab the regular CDs.
     
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    Keith, why did you keep the redbooks if you can play the SACDs in the car? (Just asking because this is the reason I started the thread) Is it because you don't want to risk damaging the SACD?
     
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    I have the mono DCC "Cookin". [​IMG]
     
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    Mike, we're only talking about a few CDs that I also have as hybrid discs. I've read that the SACD format is more sensitive to scratches than the CD due to the smaller pit size on the former, so I don't really like taking hybrid SACDs in the car.
     
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    Hmm, didn't know about the sensitivity issues. I'm also not comfortable with the idea of taking SACDs in the car. However, I could also burn the CD layer onto a CD-R. In fact, I'm probably gonna do that with all of my hybrids and some of my limited edition or rare CDs.
     
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    Mike, I just read that the SACD format is more sensitive to scratches, but I don't know if that is true. For CDs I really like, I will make copies to CD-Rs and then leave the copies in the car or office. I've also been copying rare and other out-of-print CDs to CD-Rs. I like to preserve the originals.

    NP: B.B. King & Eric Clapton Riding With The King CD
     
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    Why not just make dubs of the SACD's using a CD-R instead of buying every one of them twice? I mean, it constitutes fair use. Is there something I'm missing?
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    Aaron, that's pretty much what I'm going to do. But I was talking about if you already own the CD, then the SACD comes out.
     
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    Aaron, dubbing in the analog domain can be a pain. As long as I like the album, I don't mind buying the CD. That's just me. In fact, if I am unfamiliar with the music on an SACD, I will sometimes buy the CD first since I can get it cheaper. If I like the music, then I'll buy the SACD. As an example, I heard some good things a few months back about the Chris Botti Night Sessions SACD. I love jazz trumpet, but I was not familiar with any of Botti's solo efforts, so I bought the CD at Best Buy for $9. Only when I listened to the CD a few times and decided that I liked the music and the sound quality did I pick up the SACD. I did the same thing with Keb' Mo' The Door. Finally, the audiophile part of me likes to compare the CD and SACD once in awhile.
     
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    No comments on my original mono mix DCC "Cookin'"? I also have "Workin'", "The Musings of Miles", and "The New Miles Davis Quintet". They all sound -very- good.
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    Keith,

    I can understand that... I'd rather just buy the SACD and take my chances personally, but I have a rather small collection thus far.

    I just wish sony would release multi-layer discs. It'd make things a lot easier. *sigh*

    -Aaron
     
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    Aaron said:
     
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    Yeah.. Sony has quite the history. If SACD is an obscure format in 4 years thats going to really stink. *shrug* What ya gonna do?

    -Aaron
     

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