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Most of us grew up seeing the bookends of The Wizard of Oz in black & white instead of sepia but that doesn't make it correct. Warner did the right thing by restoring the original tint to that scene in Mighty Joe Young.aPhil said:My only issue with the otherwise beautiful HD of 1949 "Mighty Joe Young" is not having the option of viewing the entire film in black & white.
Mark-P said:Most of us grew up seeing the bookends of The Wizard of Oz in black & white instead of sepia but that doesn't make it correct. Warner did the right thing by restoring the original tint to that scene in Mighty Joe Young.
No, it certainly isn't the same thing, which is why the "just turn the color down" advice does not work for "colorized" movies. When you swath a black and white film with bogus colors, you completely change the gray scale and contrast values, and simply turning the color down leaves you with a muddy mess. MIGHTY JOE YOUNG was supposed to have been shown with the fire sequence tinted, so I don't mess with it while viewing. It might be a completely different tint than that seen in 1949, but it was apparently not meant to be viewed in black and white.aPhil said:My only issue with the otherwise beautiful HD of 1949 "Mighty Joe Young" is not having the option of viewing the entire film in black & white.
I know some people say just turn off the chroma, but techs will understand that is not the same thing.
Hi Rick!Dick said:No, it certainly isn't the same thing, which is why the "just turn the color down" advice does not work for "colorized" movies. When you swath a black and white film with bogus colors, you completely change the gray scale and contrast values, and simply turning the color down leaves you with a muddy mess. MIGHTY JOE YOUNG was supposed to have been shown with the fire sequence tinted, so I don't mess with it while viewing. It might be a completely different tint than that seen in 1949, but it was apparently not meant to be viewed in black and white.
Actually, it was a tri-tone effect by Technicolor (who also test colored portions of CHANG with this process), with highlights, midtones and shadows. Red, orange and yellow, respectively. The printing was done dye-transfer by Technicolor, and the epilogue was printed (or black and white toned) a sepia tone, similar to the end of PORTRAIT OF JENNIE. Subsiquent rerelease prints were either on pre-tinted red stock or simply not tinted at all.
aPhil said:My only issue with the otherwise beautiful HD of 1949 "Mighty Joe Young" is not having the option of viewing the entire film in black & white.
I know some people say just turn off the chroma, but techs will understand that is not the same thing.
I first saw the big ape movies in the early 1960s on that 35mm triple bill with the original King Kong and the USA version of the original Godzilla. It was an exciting experience, and I remember the prints looking great. Joe was shown without any of the sepia tone stuff during the orphanage scene, and that's the way I like it best.