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[Kramer Lowry]

 

[Esten]

Percebe, would you happen to know of any online retailer that has that German DVD and ships to the US?





There was also a scene in the theatrical version that had Maggie digging through Freddy's memories and, it cuts to a shot of Freddy in front of the furnace screaming "Get out of my heeeeeaaaadddd!"









There is behind the scenes footage of that scene being shot in the Making-Of Freddy's Dead that I have.



In the workprint of the film, that scene would go right before Maggie in the room of doors, where she exclaims "What about my dreams? What don't you want me to see!?"



Lord knows why this film has been trimmed so much.

 

[Kramer Lowry]

 

[Esten]

quote:I never heard anything about this making of. Where did you get em?

Taped off of... I think Fox, around the time Freddy's Dead was in theaters.



It also has footage of the dream demons talking at the end of the movie, after Freddy's head explodes. "What happened?" one exclaims, "I dunno, lets get outta here!". That was also in the theatrical version.



Do any of the German DVDs contain the "Exploding lightbulb" scene, that's in the tv version? I love that scene, even though there isn't much of a point to it.

 

[RaymondSteiner]

This is the item on my DVD Collection that i value the most, the box, the 80's films, that you could only see in a creepy theater, in 16:9, 5.1, you can't top that...



I hope they release this soon on Blu-Ray, with all the missing things from the Laserdisc and the German Versions,...



I can dream

 

[Esten]

Now that I think about it, that scene was in the tv spots for the boxset back in 1999. So, New Line obviously had those scenes, but just didn't use them on it. Bummer.

quote:I hope they release this soon on Blu-Ray, with all the missing things from the Laserdisc and the German Versions,...

They need to worry about releasing every film they can on DVD first, then worry about the next format.

 

[Sean Patrick]

i rememebr liking the 5.1 tracks on 1-3....i've upgraded my setup recently, i'll have to go check for the "unevenness" noted earlier in this thread....

 

[Sean Patrick]

i rememeber liking the 5.1 tracks on 1-3....i've upgraded my setup recently, i'll have to go check for the "unevenness" noted earlier in this thread....

 

[Sean Patrick]

please delete my double-post, thanks

 

[Steve Phillips]

German discs can easily be purchased from Amazon Germany but the postage to the US isn't cheap and of course they are PAL/R2 so you've got to be region free. Just got to Amazon.com and click on the Germany link at the bottom.

 

[Kramer Lowry]

 

[Mattias_ka]

Well, I do not agree on Elm Street 5. Here is a comparison I have just done with the R1 DVD and the old LD.


As most of you all know, Elm Street 5 is cut on DVD. They only used a R-rated version that cut's out 1 min of pure gore, in 12 cuts.
You can watch the uncut scenes here: http://noes.aimoo.com/. on downloads. I do have the screenshots for all the cut gore but that are 50-60 images and I think it's easier to register and see on the link I gave.

But the problem don't stop there. I have compare the USA DVD and the old Image LD, also from USA. One have to wonder if the widescreen
matting is really right way to watch it?
(DVD vs LD):

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Here he shows her the tickets that he have bought for them and they talk a little about them. But you don't see that on the DVD.

More places where the matting is maybe too tight?

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There are a lot of places where I think the open matte version is the better one.

But it is even more! As you see on some of the pictures there is a big different in color and that is not constant! Both color and brighter/darker image changes all the time in both versions.
(DVD vs LD):

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Here the LD have a substantial more deep blue color, where the DVD is more neutral. In most cases, but not all, the LD do have a deeper color (blue/red).
What is right, I don't know. I prefer maybe 60-70% of the time the LD's color over the DVD, but some cases the DVD was way better.
More color difference (DVD vs LD):

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Here the DVD is much brighter and have a neutral color. The LD is much darker and have a greenish color. But in this case, I think the LD is right is we watch the scene right after this:

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Here we see that the place she is coming from is green, even on the DVD.

More color differences (DVD vs LD):

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As you see, the color timing is not constant.

I have also found a audio misstake, I think. When they are breaking in to free Amanda Kreuger soul:

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She ask "Sister Amanda?" on the LD, but nothing on the DVD.

I also preferred the PCM track on the LD over the DD on the DVD. More dynamic and clearer.

So I hope for a new DVD (HD-DVD) release with the unrated version and maybe more of the LD's color timing in some cases (or a total redone transfer supervised by the DP). And I would prefer if I could choose to watch a open matte version.

 

[Esten]

I had asked New Line in a chat like 4-5 years ago about the unrated version, and their response was something along the lines of not being able to locate the negatives for the unrated version.

The "Sister Amanda?" line is on the DVD, but you can only hear it with headphones. It's real low.

 

[Jack Johnson]

That argument boils down to what's more important, directorial intent--the purist position--versus the "season to taste," viewer's preference way to go.

I've found I prefer watching these open matte--full screen--on my 27 inch television. [each of the Nightmare films is offered full screen on the 2nd layer of the single disc edition dvds, but the menus are tricky. One must select "play movie" from the main menu in order to select widescreen or fullscreen (if you try to play directly from any other menu, it defaults to widescreen)] They're just more immersive that way on a smaller screen. And, in those rare instances where the framing is way off--allowing parts of the image that were obviously intended to be covered--I simply do a mental matte job and ignore it.

Contrary to what the studios and some videophiles would have you believe, many full screen editions of 1.85:1 films are simply "open matte" transfers and result in more of the camera negative being exposed, not less.

If you're interested in the open matte Nightmares, seek out those signle disc editions. With each transfer accessible from the same side of the dvd, it's easy to do side-by-side comparison of the composition.


--Jack

 

[TravisR]

It isn't about if you see more, it's about what is intended to be seen.

 

[Jack Johnson]

It's only about that if you're interested in watching the intended framing. If you're interested in watching the films open-matte, it's nice to have the full screen transfers.

 

[Jonathon M]

which is one step away from making your own cuts of the films.

either you're into films to see the art that people make, or your into it purely to watch something entertaining.

most people around here are here for the former.

 

[Mattias_ka]

The problem is, are the matting done right? Have the director or the DP supervised the transfer? And even if it was played in theaters, maybe the movie was made mostly for the DTV market, and for a open matt version.
Because, I find it very strange that they talk about a ticket, and he even show it for her, but you will not see it on dvd DVD.

 

[Robert Ringwald]

The NOES series was NOT filmed with the DTV format in mind. Considering NOES1 was New Line's first real hit... and the other films were subsequently green-lit based on the box office success of the previous ones... (not to mention, New Line didn't even distribute the films on video themselves... didn't they licence them out to media entertainment?) I have a feeling they were done with the theatrical release in mind. It also explains why Part 3 and 4 have replaced music on the original video releases, and part 6 was filmed with 3D in mind for theaters only.

It would be nice if the DP's would chime in on the issue, but who can be sure? The transfer on part 1's original DVD release was approved by the original DP, I think.

 

[TravisR]

I follow what you're saying. While not every DVD has the proper framing, an open matte is definitely not what is intended. I'd rather see something mis-framed than in the wrong aspect ratio.