Wow. Been a while since I did satellite. It's not cheap to get the HD and/or DVR equipment even as a new subscriber. I mean DishNetwork is bordering on the absurd for their HD DVR unit. In order to get their HD/DVR unit you have to pay a $250 upgrade LEASE fee. Thats right, you have to pay 250 bucks for the privelage to pay a $10 a month fee to lease this bad-boy. Not buy it - but lease it. When you quit, you have to turn it in and you do not get this money back. What the Hell? And DirecTV, you have to pay $550 to own their HD/DVR unit. At least you own it but good grief. I guess I will be happy paying $9.99 monthly for my cable HD/DVR unit with no upfront costs. I would think satellite would not put such big cost hurdles into becoming a subscriber. Oh well. Anyone else think that is rediculous?