Confusion time Re: EVIL DEAD!!!! Help!!

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  1. Dave Mack

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    Hey Y'all!!
    Was looking forward to the new Evil Dead disc, then I read the DVDfile.com review which said that the new transfer is a disappointment and reccomends the older 1.
    THEN I read the review at DigitalBits and they gave the new transfer a RAVE and said it's the best the film has ever looked!!!!!!! AGH!!!!!!
    What to do...? what to do....?
    any thoughts, Y'all????
     
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    Here was my solution. I Am going to buy the Book of the Dead regardless. However, to avoid being repetitous on the extras, I am going to pick up the original Anchor Bay Edition. I don't need Elite because it doubles up on the extras. I am going to get Anchor Bay also because it is full frame. That way I get the full fram 35 mm and the widescreen 16mm. Best of both worlds.
     
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    DVDFile just doesn't seem to like grain (Love it or not, it's part of film.)

    16mm is going to look grainy unless massive digital work is done, but it will result in a loss of detail.

    The Anchor Bay transfer is from the 16mm negative, so I'd like to know how that's worse than a 35mm blowup print (Elite).
     
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    RobL, after reading your post I'm looking forward even more to getting this release! [​IMG] Until now I wasn't aware that the new AB transfer is directly off the negative.
    I'm quite confident that this new AB transfer is the way this film is supposed to be seen. Anybody who says different isn't paying much attention to the real world. [​IMG]
    I can't wait till 5th of march!
     
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    Dave, the best thing I can recommend right now is to read Ron's review. Here is the link.
     
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    It's funny how folks can (a.) cry foul over Warner's fullscreen remaster of THE SHINING, and (b.) complain over Anchor Bay's widescreen transfer of EVIL DEAD. Both film were shot fullscreen, and then matted for theaters. Also - reportedly - both DVD's (the fullscreen SHINING and the widescreen EVIL DEAD) represent the preferred aspect ratios chosen by Kubrick and Raimi for home viewing. Whatever.

    I agree with the comments about DVD File's attitude towards grain. Without having even seen the transfer, I feel inclined to lean towards the Bits review of the new disc. Sold!
     
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    Id like to pick this up as well and Im unsure which version to get.
     
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    I was not indicating the director's preferred aspect ratio, only stating that it was not shot at 1.85 to 1.

    The director gets to choose the aspect ratio of projection, not me.

    Just clarifying how it was shot, not how it eventually ended up being ptrojected.
     
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    It was shot with 1.33:1 in mind, but with a mechanical "tilt & pan" process later added to make it compatible with modern theaters (usually 1.85:1 for open matte films).

    The Kubrick DVD's are done according to Kubrick's wishes, this DVD is re-formatted according to Rami's wishes.

    If you're seeing what the director want's you to see, it's done correctly.
     
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    Yes it is. [​IMG]
     
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    It would be interesting to see just how much people are willing to accept as long as the disc is "Director-Approved". [​IMG]
     
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    The reason many of us question the ratio of the film is because the filmmaker has sent out mixed messages on it .

    -In the Evil Dead handbook it is mentioned that the film should be presented in a 1.66 aspect ratio.

    -The Elite Collector's Edition Laserdisc released several years ago had a transfer that was personaly approved by the director at a fullframe aspect ratio of 1.33.

    -Now we have a new dvd matted to a 1.85 ratio that was also approved by the director.
     

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