Bond 25 - "No Time to Die" (2021) (2 Viewers)

[Josh Steinberg]

It’s at least a couple hours out of house where things will go boom. And it’ll probably be better than A View To A Kill

 

[Tommy R]

My favorite Bond song in ages is Another Way To Die from Jack White and Alicia Keys. To me it feels very Bond-y and has that propulsive fever dream energy that courses through Quantum Of Solace so it’s a perfect match.

I wrote an essay on this that’s been lost to time but I think Quantum, for all its flaws, is still a fantastic picture with an incredible intensity. Bond is in a bad way throughout the majority of the picture, and some “method viewing” really helps. Watch that movie in a state of intoxication, after you’ve been betrayed and wounded, and it’s like “oh, shit, this movie GETS it!”.

Ive always LOVED “Another Way to Die”! Totally Bond-ian in all the right ways. The first three Craig songs were amazing in their ways, though I was disappointed in “Writing on the Wall”. Eilish’s song has the same sort of mood to it as that one, but it’s WAY better. I do hope for something with a little more hop to it next time like “Another Way to Die” or “You Know My Name”.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I like what You Know My Name was going for but lyrically it seemed wrong for a film meant to introduce a new version of the character, and the production/arrangement sounded dated to me from the beginning. I like it but it doesn’t transcend the movie for me; it’s not going to wind up on a random non-Bond playlist in my house.

 

[Keith Cobby]

All the reviews say this is the best theme 'in ages' whatever this means. To me it's a dirge, there's no life in it at all. The fun has gone out of the films and there needs to be a break, everything is too dark and moody. If any film series needs a reboot it's this one.

 

[Osato]

All the reviews say this is the best theme 'in ages' whatever this means. To me it's a dirge, there's no life in it at all. The fun has gone out of the films and there needs to be a break, everything is too dark and moody. If any film series needs a reboot it's this one.

I feel this way to. Mission impossible seems to get the formula right.
I’m excited to see the new Bond film but I’m ready for new direction on the films too.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I’m ready for new direction on the films too.

“This time it’s...not personal.”

 

[Jake Lipson]

I get why releasing the theme ahead of time is helpful for marketing purposes, but the movie is still two months away. I don't really want it this early. I'm going to try to avoid it so that I can hear it for the first time in the context of the film itself, which I think makes it more fun.

 

[Keith Cobby]

I'll be pleased to see the back of the Craig era, he is too short for the part and has too much angst. Plus we know he is only doing it for the money! I watched Moonraker again recently. Good fun film, good theme, good villain etc, and the blu ray looked really good on my OLED. Now that the Craigs are on 4k i expect they will give us the Brosnans next! Probably have to wait ages for the good stuff.

 

[Sam Favate]

“This time it’s...not personal.”

We can only hope.

Those morons Purvis & Wade are still writing, so don't get your hopes up.

 

[Tino]

I'll be pleased to see the back of the Craig era, he is too short for the part and has too much angst. Plus we know he is only doing it for the money! I watched Moonraker again recently. Good fun film, good theme, good villain etc, and the blu ray looked really good on my OLED. Now that the Craigs are on 4k i expect they will give us the Brosnans next! Probably have to wait ages for the good stuff.

All available in 4K on iTunes. And they look and sound great imo...all better than the Blu Rays.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

We can only hope.

Those morons Purvis & Wade are still writing, so don't get your hopes up.

Well... I meant, next time without Craig. My scripting expectations for this go around are pretty low.

 

[SamT]

 

[AshJW]

We can only hope.

Those morons Purvis & Wade are still writing, so don't get your hopes up.

Well, listen to what is said in the trailer and listen to the lyrics of the song I would say it’s getting very personal - again.

 

[Osato]

Well, listen to is said in the trailer and listen to the lyrics of the song I would say it’s getting very personal - again.

agreed,

 

[Winston T. Boogie]

This time it is personal and Bond is going rogue!

 

[Tommy R]

Yes, he’s been on a path of revenge ever since he declared he would join SPECTRE’s revenge department in Dr. No when he vowed to kill the killers of Strangways and Quarrel.

 

[Edwin-S]

The theme song for this film is quite possibly the worst.....Bond.....theme......song......ever. It sounds like it belongs at a funeral, not at the beginning of a Bond film.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

Given that the next movie's going to be at least partially a reboot, with a new actor in the role, I really hope this movie embraces the fact that it's an ending, in the same way that Casino Royale was a beginning. After the loose chronology of the Connery through Brosnan eras, it'd be nice if Craig's Bond is allowed to complete his journey from beginning to end.

I wrote an essay on this that’s been lost to time but I think Quantum, for all its flaws, is still a fantastic picture with an incredible intensity. Bond is in a bad way throughout the majority of the picture, and some “method viewing” really helps. Watch that movie in a state of intoxication, after you’ve been betrayed and wounded, and it’s like “oh, shit, this movie GETS it!”.

My problem with Quantum of Solace is that it feels like Casino Royale 1.5. It's the kind of story that Bond gets into between movies. The whole movie basically just ties up the dangling threads from Casino Royale.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Another Quantum problem is that it negates the character development from Casino Royale. It puts him on the same “too young, too inexperienced, too immature” path that he journeyed down in Casino Royale. His character has the same arc and ends in the same place we thought he ended at the end of Casino.

Which is probably why it works better for me as an insane fever dream rather than a literal sequel.

 

[Tommy R]

I always felt that delving a little deeper into Bond’s greif in QoS was very interesting, and didn’t negate the ending of CR. Even at the end of QoS, he tells M “I never left.” I took this that regardless of his actions (even if it’s some quite heavy-handed insubordination) he was always committed to the service in his own way. Vesper’s betrayal was still very fresh at the end of CR, so him coming to grips/acceptance/forgiveness wasn’t going to come quite so easy, and is justified as legit character development in the film. At least, that’s how I’ve always looked at it.

QoS has grown on me more and more literally every time I’ve seen it since it came out, so I’m glad people still give it some interesting discussion. I think it’s not very far from being a great Bond film.