Are 2.35:1 Films The ONLY Type Pan-&-Scanned?

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  1. David Von Pein

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    I've never seen the answer to this inquiry spelled out (specifically) in other HTF threads, so I thought I'd put it out there.
    Surely, a movie originally filmed in 1.85:1 or 1.78:1 or 1.66:1 ARs do not require the P&S method when transferring them to Full-Frame VHS or DVD. Do they?
    I'm guessing that every ratio narrower than 2.35:1 is NOT P&S'ed....we just simply see less on the left and right of the screen, but without the P&S "shifting" process. Am I correct?
    Along the same Pan-&-Scan lines ..... Can anyone tell me WHO is in charge of "directing" the Pan-&-Scan process when transferring a film to video? In other words, WHO makes the decisions of when to switch the panning from one side of the frame to the other? I suppose this "directing" process is not too difficult most of the time. The person speaking in most cases is the one in view. But what about other type scenes....the shots not dictated by conversation? How/Who decides on what side of a 2.35 frame we get to see? Just curious. [​IMG]
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    [​IMG] to P&S!
     
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  3. David Von Pein

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    Thanks Damin!
    Very informative.
     
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    To amplify Damin's comments, nowadays most directors (or the director of photography) prepare the pan-and-scan/unmatted version in conjunction with the video technicians. The creative team usually has to sign off on all of the transfers.
     
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    There have been a few movies that were hard-matted to a sub-2:1 aspect ratio.

    * Monty Python and the Holy Grail
    * Memphis Belle
    * So I Married and Ax Murderer (I think)

    All of these are 1.85:1 or below, but all of them are actually subjected to pan-and-scan, not open matte. I believe that the number of such movies are vastly outweighed by the number of open matte releases, however.
     
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    Not at all. Even 1.33:1 films are panned & scanned on video sometimes.

    However, most flat films (1.66:1-1.85:1) are simply unmatted when shown fullframe. Willy Wonka and The Lord of the Rings (animated) are good examples.

    Still non-OAR, but a different process. I've actually seen some Super-35 films transferred like Panavision films with full pan & scanning. The Cable Guy has enough digital pans to make you seasick.
     
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    Read Obi's review of "Spirit" just to see a HORRIBLE display of p&s and make you wonder if anyway signs off.
     
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