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How a SE 70mm print is possible here?
Dave stated that he saw a 70mm print of Aliens, and unless I missed it, he doesn't mention that it was the SE anywhere in his post.

I have went back through my emails and outlook entries and while I have a number of saved emails regarding movie night it seems that the email for Aliens was not one of them. Also looking back on my records in outlook it looks as I put down the wrong year. The actual date I saw this movie was 7/29/2014 then again on 7/29/2017 so the date in 2016 was nothing more than watching my blu-ray copy. But getting back to seeing Aliens have it down in outlook that it was the directors cut and maybe that is only because the words directors cut was used at the screening instead of Special Edition. I see on my blu-ray it says Special Edition so the screening had to have been the Special Edition with the added footage that was not in the Theatrical release. I know that one of the guys that did classic movie night at Fox is no longer there after Disney purchased Fox. I am thinking about sending an email and see if I get a response about the screening of Aliens to see if I can get a verification of it being a 70mm presentation of the movie. I know there where a few movies at Fox that where shown on 70mm like Patton and Sound Of Music. I just have a strong memory of Aliens being 70mm but if I am wrong it was at least 35mm but all these years I only remember it being 70mm. There where a number of movies shown from a 4K DCP file but I am sure Aliens was not one of them. I will update if I am somehow able to get conformation of the movie being from 70mm. Alot has been going on so I apologize if I misremember this screening. Also this was the fist movie I was able to see at Fox movie night which holds a special place in my heart.
 

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However, if these heat maps are accurate, it'd fit Aliens remaster re-using the 2010 2K master

Again with this claim that the 2010 master was 2K. Where are you finding documentation of that? Lowry Digital created that master for the Aliens Blu-ray, and they were doing 4K scans and mastering at least as early as 2006.
 

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Again with this claim that the 2010 master was 2K. Where are you finding documentation of that? Lowry Digital created that master for the Aliens Blu-ray, and they were doing 4K scans and mastering at least as early as 2006.
I'm unaware of any serious studio / post house that was using 2k for anything other than IPs or dupes for video purposes. We were using 4k back in January of 2007.
 

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HDR and DV are packages that don’t always relate well to older films. But the marketing makes it seem as though it’s a necessity and part of 4k.
I watched the 4K release of 'McCabe, and Mrs. Miller' from Criterion. No HDR. Great.

I wish this was implemented on many more classic films as I do not feel many of them need HDR at all.
 

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Again with this claim that the 2010 master was 2K. Where are you finding documentation of that? Lowry Digital created that master for the Aliens Blu-ray, and they were doing 4K scans and mastering at least as early as 2006.
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I worked with Ryan while he was there. I would dispute the term restoration for any of those projects. This also doesn't answer the question. What were the base files?

I was about to ask that question as well. His use of the phrase "2K restoration" does not necessarily mean that the film scan was done at 2K. It might still have been a 4K scan with a 2K workflow for the digital processing.

As I said above, Lowry Digital was doing 4K scans at least as early as the James Bond Ultimate Edition DVDs in 2006. They put a title card after the end credits on those discs specifying as much.

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Nevertheless, if the new Aliens 4K A.I. enhanced master was based on prior work, that does leave open the question of whether it went back to the raw scan (potentially 4K) or started with the completed Blu-ray master (possibly only 2K).
 

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Isn’t it a possibility that Cameron did not do right by these 3 movies by using a. i. and reimagining them?
More so towards Aliens and True Lies then Abyss?
 

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I worked with Ryan while he was there. I would dispute the term restoration for any of those projects. This also doesn't answer the question. What were the base files?
I can't answer that. I can only look at the final result which bears more than a passing resemblance to the prior Blu-ray, minus the grain overlay but with the addition of AI image processing.
 

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Isn’t it a possibility that Cameron did not do right by these 3 movies by using a. i. and reimagining them?
More so towards Aliens and True Lies then Abyss?
I think it's more of a possibility that you disagree with Cameron's reimagining decision regarding these home video releases than him not doing right regarding these three movies.
 

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I disagree.
The ai work wasn’t needed.

I think it was Man who predicted this well before we saw or knew anything about these releases.
 

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