Warner Archive: Summer Stock on Blu-ray

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Warner Archive Collection
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SUMMER STOCK (1950)
NEW 2019 1080p HD MASTER
Run Time 109:00
Subtitles English SDH
Sound Quality DTS HD-Master Audio 2.0 – English
Aspect Ratio 4 X 3 FULL FRAME, 1.37:1
Product Color COLOR
Disc Configuration BD 50
Special Features: Get Happy:The Making of Summer Stock (featurette); Vintage Pete Smith Specialty Short “Did’ja Know” (SD); Vintage Tex Avery cartoon “The Cuckoo Clock” (HD)Theatrical Trailer (HD)

There’s an unusual harvest at Falbury Farm: beans, hay…show tunes. It’s a bumper crop, too, with Judy Garland and Gene Kelly leading all the hoofing, singing and sparking. In her final MGM musical, Garland plays Jane Falbury, a farm owner more than a bit riled when her aspiring-actress sister (Gloria De Haven) shows up with a theatrical troupe that wants to stage a musical in the family’s barn. Any guess who becomes the show’s sudden star after its lead runs off with a Broadway actor? Highlights include Kelly’s shuffle-and-squeak “You, Wonderful You” dance solo making use of loose boards and newspaper on the floor, tuxedo-topped Garland’s leggy, joyous “Get Happy” and a Kelly/Phil Silvers country-bumpkin bit of “Heavenly Music” backed by woofing canines. After a show like this, how’re you gonna keep these kids down on the farm?

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  1. It's really encouraging to see WAC release another Technicolor film (and more Judy Garland is always a great thing). It gives me hope that we still might see National Velvet at some point. It's celebrating its 75th anniversary this year!

  2. A lot of people thought Show Boat would be the next Warners Archive Technicolor musical on blu ray but I had a sneaking suspicion it would be either Summer Stock, The Pirate or In The Good Old Summertime. Now bring on Good News, Warners!

  3. All I have to say is FINALLY WE HAVE A NEW-TO-BLU PRE-1954 MGM MUSICAL FROM WAC!!! I'm certainly anxiously awaiting this one! Personally, I'm not surprised it's not the '51 Show Boat, as I can't help but wonder whether Criterion might have gotten that one along with the '36 (maybe even Till The Clouds Roll By and the '29 version, which might explain what might be holding the release up, seeing as how the '36 DVD has been OOP for half a year by now).

  4. Thomas T

    A lot of people thought Show Boat would be the next Warners Archive Technicolor musical on blu ray but I had a sneaking suspicion it would be either Summer Stock, The Pirate or In The Good Old Summertime. Now bring on Good News, Warners!

    Yes to Good News.

  5. Though I was hoping for THE PIRATE, I'll certainly buy this. In fact, I plan on pre-ordering through the Archive website, just to give it my support.

    While for me this may be the weakest of Judy Garland's MGM musicals, it still has a number of amazing sequences in it, just more longueurs than usual in between. Anyway, as other posters have already stated, it's Judy. And Gene Kelly. And Charles Walters. And Technicolor. Reason enough to get it as soon as possible.

    Anyway, I saw this with my Mom when I was 4, so it will bring back memories. As I've stated in other posts, these Blu-Rays are for me the equivalent of Marcel Proust's madeleines dipped in Chamomile tea.

    No, I'm not old enough to have seen SUMMER STOCK when it came out, but in the mid 50's, the Loew's Strand in downtown Syracuse started showing MGM films oriented towards children at 11AM on Saturdays, and this was one of them. I remember what year it was as I was wearing my brand-new Davy Crocket hat. Other films in the series were THE WIZARD OF OZ, SINGIN' IN THE RAIN & THE THREE MUSKETEERS. The nice thing about this program of MGM classics was that when THE WIZARD OF OZ started showing annually on TV, unlike most of my friends, I was aware that most of the film was supposed to be in color.

  6. Let me also say that the Loew;s Strand had an interior lobby next to the Men's and Women's Lounges (for that is what they called them in those days) that was an Italianate piazza with multi-colored tile and a balcony with wrought iron in the shape of clinging vines out of Romeo & Juliet, which was a great place to hang if the movie was a bit boring. I was inconsolable when the theater was razed in 1960 to make room for a parking garage.

  7. I bought the HD version on iTunes several weeks ago and have enjoyed it a couple of times since I bought it. It looks beautiful. I'm sure the Blu-ray will look even more spectacular, and I'll see for myself when it's released. It's Judy, and I will buy every movie of hers on Blu-ray.

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    Garysb

    I wonder if the cover is in error and if it will be changed. Gene Kelly never got billing over Judy Garland. Usually the billing on blu rays maintains the original billing.

    All the US advertising material does have Garland first and Kelly second. However, some foreign advertising had it reversed as in this Belgium one-sheet, which the Blu-Ray cover seems based on.

  9. Mark B

    I hope they fix the goof made when refreshing the soundtrack for DVD. At 2:47 the "Charge!" is missing.

    See this is the type of detail that people on this board and others spot but no one noticed the 20 seconds cut from "Psycho" almost 60 years ago until the German blu ray was released. Don't understand it.

    As for the missing "Charge" in "Summer Stock", I am guessing that was not on the pre recording used in the remaster of the film audio. Whether they used the stems for the songs and it was missing instead of the soundtrack from the negative or however that works. Basically to get better sound quality they used a source missing that word. It might have been a conscious decision to use a source with better sound and lose the word rather than an error.

  10. Other than the film itself, the most noteworthy announcement is a Tex Avery cartoon that is going to be presented in HD.

    None of Tex' MGM cartoons have ever been given anything than antiquated videotape masters. If that press release isn't in error, this will be the first time any of them have been prepped for high definition. Hopefully this indicates that WAC is gearing up for a much-needed, much-delayed release of his cartoons.

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    What a great announcement and I have to admit, I was one of those who predicted the 3-strip title would be Show Boat. It makes total sense that all the Show Boats may be released by Criterion at some point. I'm just as pleased about this, if not more so. A delightful film that belies the enormous headaches that went into its filming. Much to enjoy here with a talented cast at the top of their form which includes two of the best solo music performances ever caught on film, Garland's Get Happy and Kelly's newspaper dance to You Wonderful You. It's always a cause for celebration anytime a 3-strip gem from the golden age is released on Blu-ray. And attached here is the one sheet poster art with which I'm most familiar. In the US, Garland was always billed over Kelly.

  12. I'm excited to get this film, and even more excited because it maybe (hopefully, probably) means more 3-strip Technicolor movies controlled by Warners will be released on Blu. I had despaired of that, since most of the Warner Archive releases – even Seven Brides For Seven Brothers – were from already existing interpositives, and that won't work well for most 3-strip titles.

    For me, the most-wanted musical title is The Pirate. Most of the other musicals look good or better on DVD, but The Pirate looks faded and flat. I haven't been able to watch the Laserdisc from the Judy Garland box set in some time, but I remember it as being much more colorful.

  13. Ken_Martinez

    Other than the film itself, the most noteworthy announcement is a Tex Avery cartoon that is going to be presented in HD.

    None of Tex' MGM cartoons have ever been given anything than antiquated videotape masters. If that press release isn't in error, this will be the first time any of them have been prepped for high definition. Hopefully this indicates that WAC is gearing up for a much-needed, much-delayed release of his cartoons.

    I surely hope you're right!

  14. I thought they were concentrating on the Cinemascope MGM features for a while, in which case, "Jupiter's Darling" might have been next. I don't think they've touched any of Esther Williams' films on blu yet.

  15. Ethan Riley

    I thought they were concentrating on the Cinemascope MGM features for a while, in which case, "Jupiter's Darling" might have been next. I don't think they've touched any of Esther Williams' films on blu yet.

    They have been focusing on the Scope Anscocolor/Eastmancolor/Metrocolor films. This came out of left field. The elements must have been in great shape. The DVD looked good back in the day. And count me in for Jupiter's Darling. Highly underrated film. The only Esther Williams film on Blu-ray (if you can call it that) is Deep in My Heart and her scene with George Murphy in Girlies of the Cabaret was cut before release. It's a bonus feature on the disc.

  16. JoelA

    They have been focusing on the Scope Anscocolor/Eastmancolor/Metrocolor films. This came out of left field. The elements must have been in great shape. The DVD looked good back in the day. And count me in for Jupiter's Darling. Highly underrated film. The only Esther Williams film on Blu-ray (if you can call it that) is Deep in My Heart and her scene with George Murphy in Girlies of the Cabaret was cut before release. It's a bonus feature on the disc.

    The elements for some of those MGM Technicolor masterpieces probably are mostly in good shape (as far as I've heard for most of them) but it's probably a pain to restore them for blu. However, the ones they've done so far have been miraculous.

  17. Thomas T

    A lot of people thought Show Boat would be the next Warners Archive Technicolor musical on blu ray but I had a sneaking suspicion it would be either Summer Stock, The Pirate or In The Good Old Summertime. Now bring on Good News, Warners!

    My vote goes to Show Boat (1951). It's my favorite MGM musical. So bring it on!

  18. Harold Chasen

    For me, the most-wanted musical title is The Pirate. Most of the other musicals look good or better on DVD, but The Pirate looks faded and flat. I haven't been able to watch the Laserdisc from the Judy Garland box set in some time, but I remember it as being much more colorful.

    The laserdisc is definitely more colorful and vibrant than the lackluster DVD. WOuld love to see this on a gorgeous Blu-ray transfer one day. Don't know if it will ever happen.

  19. A fun movie with Judy Garland and Gene Kelly doing some nice numbers. The HD streaming version on Amazon looks beautiful. Some of the best and brightest Technicolor ever seen. Now please give us IN THE GOOD OLD SUMMERTIME and both versions of SHOW BOAT — 1951 and the superior 1936 James Whale version with Criterion’s commentary. Do I demand a lot? And I love FRANKENSTEIN 1970 and A PATCH OF BLUE, by the way!

  20. lark144

    Though I was hoping for THE PIRATE, I'll certainly buy this. In fact, I plan on pre-ordering through the Archive website, just to give it my support.

    While for me this may be the weakest of Judy Garland's MGM musicals, it still has a number of amazing sequences in it, just more longueurs than usual in between.

    It's not Garland's weakest musical – not, by a long shot. Try Thoroughbreds Don't Cry or Little Nellie Kelly for weak. Summer Stock is superb, Garland, battling her demons to deliver a nuanced performance with the poignant, 'Friendly Star' a real highlight. Look at all the pain in those eyes, the longing for love – genuine and pure. And, of course, there's 'Get Happy' – the showstopper. Between these highlights there are many others. 'Dig for Your Dinner' – a great Kelly routine, and, 'The Portland Fancy' – a superb competition dance with Garland matching Kelly toe for toe – exuberant and celebratory. Still remember Phil Silver's classic line, after having his glasses knocked off. Eddie Bracken asks, "Have you seen Jane?" to which Silver replies, "Seen Jane?!? I can't even see the house!" Hilarious. Agreed, Gloria DeHaven is underused in this one. She only gets to warble 'Memory Island'.

    Now, can we finish off the Garland magic with the release of The Harvey Girls, The Pirate, For Me and My Gal, and The Good Old Summertime, plus the cavalcade musicals in which she appeared merely in cameo, but to very good effect: Ziegfeld Girl, Thousands Cheer, Till The Clouds Roll By, and Words and Music.

  21. JimMiller

    Still hoping "Sweethearts" (1938) makes it to blu. Even if you don't like M&E, it is the first 3-strip MGM movie and worth a release.

    Yes to "Sweethearts", as well. BTW, it received an Oscar for its cinematography.:thumbs-up-smiley:
    Oh, yah, if there's any questions here, "Summer Stock" gets my vote and purchase, too.:)

  22. Nick*Z

    Now, can we finish off the Garland magic with the release of The Harvey Girls, The Pirate, For Me and My Gal, and The Good Old Summertime, plus the cavalcade musicals in which she appeared merely in cameo, but to very good effect: Ziegfeld Girl, Thousands Cheer, Till The Clouds Roll By, and Words and Music.

    What a clear and concise and sensible list.

    And I know they've been discussed a million times before on these pages, but they seem like such slam dunks and films that should be available to their (and Judy's) fans.

  23. I'm delighted Summer Stock is coming to Blu and that I can finally retire my DVD. I was constantly borrowing the VHS from the library when I was growing up. The Portland Fancy is one of my favourite dance numbers. Gene and Judy radiate such energy and joy while they're dancing; they had great chemistry together. I was secretly hoping for a Blu release of Royal Wedding. I recently caught it on TCM, looking gorgeous. I had only even seen the public domain version so this was a revelation! Count me in for The Pirate, The Harvey Girls, and Yolanda and the Thief.

  24. Taylor * D

    I'm delighted Summer Stock is coming to Blu and that I can finally retire my DVD. I was constantly borrowing the VHS from the library when I was growing up. The Portland Fancy is one of my favourite dance numbers. Gene and Judy radiate such energy and joy while they're dancing; they had great chemistry together. I was secretly hoping for a Blu release of Royal Wedding. I recently caught it on TCM, looking gorgeous. I had only even seen the public domain version so this was a revelation! Count me in for The Pirate, The Harvey Girls, and Yolanda and the Thief.

    Hey! You joined in 2005 and this is your first post? As Otto Harbach once wrote:

    "What kind of game is this you've begun?
    Was it done
    Just for fun?"

    Don't be shy! Drop round more often!

  25. Robin9

    Hey! You joined in 2005 and this is your first post? As Otto Harbach once wrote:

    "What kind of game is this you've begun?
    Was it done
    Just for fun?"

    Don't be shy! Drop round more often!

    Nice catch, Robin! 😀

    14 years…and THEN Taylor speaks.

    I love that kind of thing. It makes you go…

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  26. Do we have any idea what the hold-up might be on the April pre-orders, at least on the wbshop? I can understand Amazon, given the way they have been with a lot of recent WAC releases, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit to wondering if some of these titles haven't been delayed until May (seems unlikely, given that almost NOTHING has been put up for pre-order for April, but still)!

  27. Mike Frezon

    Nice catch, Robin! 😀

    14 years…and THEN Taylor speaks.

    I love that kind of thing. It makes you go…

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    Thanks all, longtime lurker (reader) but I've always felt at home around these boards. Would you believe I was 15 when I joined the HTF! 😀

  28. Taylor * D

    Thanks all, longtime lurker (reader) but I've always felt at home around these boards. Would you believe I was 15 when I joined the HTF! 😀

    And you want to see films such as Royal Wedding, The Pirate, The Harvey Girls and Yolanda and the Thief released on Blu-ray? Excellent taste! Did you enjoy these films at 15 or discover them over the years?

    Welcome and please stop lurking and start contributing more.

  29. Okay, by now all of Metro's platinum musicals ought to have been released to Blu…in a perfect world.
    The list is long and distinguished.

    The Broadway Melody
    The Great Ziegfeld – BEST MOMENT – A Pretty Girl is Like A Melody
    The Merry Widow – BEST MOMENT – Girls, Girls, Girls/Vilia
    Naughty Marietta
    Born to Dance – BEST MOMENT – Swingin' the Jinx Away
    Rosalie – BEST MOMENT – the mind-boggling title number with Eleanor Powell tapping like mad
    The Great Waltz
    Girl of the Golden West
    The Firefly
    The Chocolate Soldier – BEST MOMENT – My Hero
    Balalaika
    New Moon
    Everybody Sing
    Broadway Melody of 1936 – BEST MOMENT – Everybody Sing
    Broadway Melody of 1938
    Broadway Melody of 1940 – BEST MOMENT – Begin the Beguine
    Babes in Arms – BEST MOMENT – God's Country
    Babes on Broadway – BEST MOMENT – the finale
    Strike Up The Band – BEST MOMENT – the finale
    Girl Crazy
    Cabin in the Sky – BEST MOMENT – Takin' A Chance on Love
    Maytime – BEST MOMENT – Will You Remember?
    Rose Marie – BEST MOMENT – Indian Love Call
    Honolulu – BEST MOMENT – Hola e Pae
    Two Girls on Broadway
    Lady Be Good
    Panama Hattie
    Swing Fever
    Meet the People
    Du Barry Was A Lady
    Born to Sing
    Best Foot Forward – BEST MOMENT – The Three B's
    Rio Rita – BEST MOMENT – The Ranger's Song
    Thousands Cheer – BEST MOMENT – The Joint Is Really Jumpin' Down At Carnegie Hall
    Bathing Beauty – the finale
    Million Dollar Mermaid – the Smoke and Fountain number
    Thrill of a Romance – BEST MOMENT – Viva La Company
    Yolanda and the Thief – BEST MOMENT – Coffee Time
    Royal Wedding – BEST MOMENT – The Happiest Day of My Life
    Holiday in Mexico – BEST MOMENT – Ave Maria
    Small Town Girl – BEST MOMENT – Take Me To Broadway
    The Harvey Girls – BEST MOMENT – On The Atcheson Topeka/It's A Great Big World
    Three Little Words – BEST MOMENT – I Wanna Be Loved By You
    Till the Clouds Roll By – BEST MOMENT – Sunny/Who?
    Words & Music – BEST MOMENT – I Wish I Were In Love Again/Johnny One Note
    Good News – BEST MOMENT – The Varsity Drag/Lucky in Love
    This Time For Keeps – BEST MOMENT – Take 10% Off
    Summer Holiday – BEST MOMENT – The Stanley Steamer
    High Society – BEST MOMENT – the entire Cole Porter score…Well, Did you Ev'ah?
    Luxury Liner – BEST MOMENT – The Peanut Vendor
    Take Me Out to the Ball Game – title number
    Lovely To Look At – BEST MOMENT – Smoke Gets in Your Eyes
    Lily – BEST MOMENT – The Song of Love
    I Love Melvin – BEST MOMENT – Where Did You Learn To Dance?
    Easy To Love – the water-skiing finale
    That Midnight Kiss – BEST MOMENT – Love is Music/Symphony No. 5
    The Toast of New Orleans – BEST MOMENT – Be My Love
    Show Boat – BEST MOMENT – Bill
    The Student Prince – BEST MOMENT – I'll Walk With God
    The Barkley's of Broadway – BEST MOMENT – They Can't Take That Away from Me
    Annie Get Your Gun – BEST MOMENT – There's No Business Like Show Business
    Nancy Goes to Rio – BEST MOMENT – Caroom Pa-Pa
    A Date With Judy – BEST MOMENT – It's A Most Unusual Day
    The Great Caruso
    The Belle of New York – BEST MOMENT – Curier and Ives
    Two Girls and a Sailor
    Ziegfeld Follies
    Ziegfeld Girl – BEST MOMENT – Minnie from Trinidad
    Follow the Boys – BEST MOMENT – Tonight's My Night
    Three Daring Daughters – BEST MOMENT – Springtide
    Big City
    The Kissing Bandit
    On An Island With You
    Meet Me In Las Vegas
    Duchess of Idaho
    Two Weeks With Love – BEST MOMENT – Abba-Dabba Honeymoon
    Neptune's Daughter
    Rich, Young and Pretty
    Athena
    Everything I Have Is Yours
    Dangerous When Wet
    Give a Girl a Break
    Invitation to the Dance

  30. Taylor * D

    Thanks all, longtime lurker (reader) but I've always felt at home around these boards. Would you believe I was 15 when I joined the HTF! 😀

    So you're really getting "up there" in age, huh?!? :laugh:

    And, just like THAT, you've doubled your post count.

    JoelA

    Welcome and please stop lurking and start contributing more.

    Agreed. We could use an infusion of some youthful posting around here! 😉

  31. JoelA

    And you want to see films such as Royal Wedding, The Pirate, The Harvey Girls and Yolanda and the Thief released on Blu-ray? Excellent taste! Did you enjoy these films at 15 or discover them over the years?

    Welcome and please stop lurking and start contributing more.

    I discovered those musicals, in particular, over the years. The only place I could rent older movies when I was growing up was through the library, and even they didn't have much (at least the ones I had an interest in watching). I used to suggest movie purchases to the librarians because I wanted to watch them, but I had no means of tracking down a copy/pay for one. That's actually how I saw Summer Stock; I submitted it as a request (along with Easter Parade). I was very delighted when I saw it had been added to the catalogue and listed as "in process." The library did have Gigi, Singin' in the Rain, An American in Paris, A Star is Born, and Show Boat which I took out often enough. 🙂

  32. Taylor * D

    I discovered those musicals, in particular, over the years. The only place I could rent older movies when I was growing up was through the library, and even they didn't have much (at least the ones I had an interest in watching). I used to suggest movie purchases to the librarians because I wanted to watch them, but I had no means of tracking down a copy/pay for one. That's actually how I saw Summer Stock; I submitted it as a request (along with Easter Parade). I was very delighted when I saw it had been added to the catalogue and listed as "in process." The library did have Gigi, Singin' in the Rain, An American in Paris, A Star is Born, and Show Boat which I took out often enough. 🙂

    Thanks for sharing this and isn't it great how technology has improved upon VHS/DVDs, so we now have many of these films in as good as or better shape than when they were first released through restorations to enjoy on Blu-ray any time we want?

    I'll look forward to reading your posts here and other threads on HTF in the future. As Mike said, it's nice to have some younger voices sharing their thoughts and opinions here.

  33. Taylor * D

    […]Would you believe I was 15 when I joined the HTF! 😀

    Ah-ha, then you are proof pudding that there does exist a younger generation who is able to enjoy the classics of pre-1954.
    You've made my weekend.
    And may Warner's and all other studios take full note;
    for here we have Taylor*D who joined HTF at 15;
    and is still here with us at 29;
    and is looking forward to "Summer Stock".

    This makes me reflect upon Tom of Warwick and Final Ultimo from "Camelot".

    Pelly: Arthur, what are you doing? We've got a battle to fight.

    Arthur:
    I have won my battle, Pelly. And here…is my victory!
    What we did will be remembered, you'll see.
    Now run, sir Tom. Behind enemy lines!

    Pelly
    :
    Who was that?

    Arthur:
    One of what we all are, Pelly.
    Less than a drop in the great blue motion of the sunlit sea.
    But it seems that some of the drops sparkle.
    Some of them do sparkle!
    Run, boy! Oh, run…my boy!

    Wish I had an HTF when I was 15 but, nonetheless, here's to Taylor*D who did.

    Wonderful !!!:cheers:

  34. I grew up in the “golden age of television” when all these movies played over and over either in the mid afternoon or late at night. I only saw them in black and white of course!

    Bill Kennedy out of Detroit had a show for decades where he would introduce and play movies from classic Hollywood. Sometimes he would pick an artist say Bette Davis and over a period of months play all her movies.

  35. PMF

    Ah-ha, Taylor*D is proof pudding that there is an existing presence from a younger generation who enjoys the classic films of pre-1954.
    Taylor*D, you've made my weekend.
    And may Warner's and all other studios take full note;
    for here we have a gentleman who joined HTF at 15;
    and is still here with us at 29;
    and is also looking forward to "Summer Stock".

    Wonderful !!!:cheers:

    Well, there are some of us here! I'll admit to being a little older at 32, but I'm still young, and I very much prefer a lot of the film musicals of the 30s through the 50s (and am really glad to see WAC trying to extend that period again, instead of just a small section of it)!

  36. I'm curious as to why they haven't really dipped into the 40s MGM technicolor musicals. They've only put out (I think) Anchors Aweigh and of course Meet me in St. Louis (which is an evergreen title anyway). Where are the Harvey Girls and Ziegfield Follies?

    And as mentioned earlier, they've never done any Esther Williams films, no Jeanette MacDonald and they've also never touched any of Mario Lanza's stuff, not even "The Student Prince" in which Lanza is better heard than seen.

    You'd think they'd at least put out some of Lucy's MGM movies (no, 'Mame' doesn't count) because she's still popular. They seem to lean towards Gene Kelly's 1950s output, and they've only put out the really popular ones anyway. The only flop of his they've put out yet is "It's Always Fair Weather." Where are his other (beloved) flops such as the Pirate and "Invitation to the Dance?" I'd rather watch a Gene Kelly flop than another superhero movie, I can tell you that.

    If you want lesser-known MGM flicks that are always good for a laugh, you can't go wrong by:

    Two Weeks With Love
    Luxury Liner
    Good News
    Two Sisters From Boston
    DuBarry Was a Lady
    Jupiter's Darling

    This isn't even a complaint, because most of the MGM canon is on dvd in the Archives for all to see. I just wonder at the glacial pace of the blu-rays, even though from where I'm sitting I can see on my shelf I have already collected 25 of them.

  37. Ethan Riley

    I'm curious as to why they haven't really dipped into the 40s MGM technicolor musicals. They've only put out (I think) Anchors Aweigh and of course Meet me in St. Louis (which is an evergreen title anyway). Where are the Harvey Girls and Ziegfield Follies?

    And as mentioned earlier, they've never done any Esther Williams films, no Jeanette MacDonald and they've also never touched any of Mario Lanza's stuff, not even "The Student Prince" in which Lanza is better heard than seen.

    You'd think they'd at least put out some of Lucy's MGM movies (no, 'Mame' doesn't count) because she's still popular. They seem to lean towards Gene Kelly's 1950s output, and they've only put out the really popular ones anyway. The only flop of his they've put out yet is "It's Always Fair Weather." Where are his other (beloved) flops such as the Pirate and "Invitation to the Dance?" I'd rather watch a Gene Kelly flop than another superhero movie, I can tell you that.

    If you want lesser-known MGM flicks that are always good for a laugh, you can't go wrong by:

    Two Weeks With Love
    Luxury Liner
    Good News
    Two Sisters From Boston
    DuBarry Was a Lady
    Jupiter's Darling

    This isn't even a complaint, because most of the MGM canon is on dvd in the Archives for all to see. I just wonder at the glacial pace of the blu-rays, even though from where I'm sitting I can see on my shelf I have already collected 25 of them.

    I don't have any insider information, but I would assume low sales and/or high restoration costs must be the problem. You mentioned Anchors Aweigh, which, along with On The Town, were the last Warner-owned MGM musicals from the forties to come out on blu, and the transfers on both of the those releases were TRASHED by everybody here (since that was before WAC quality was implemented for WHV). As I have been saying, this upcoming blu of Summer Stock is WAC's first new-to-blu pre-1954 MGM musical, and WAC's first new-to-blu pre-1954 musical from ANY of the studios since Thank Your Lucky Stars four years ago. If Gene Kelly's output has been emphasized through WAC, it's because he had a few movies that he made/appeared in after 1954, and apparently, they must have sold, if their first attempt at a pre-1954 musical is another Gene Kelly musical. And it's not just the MGM musicals, their output of pre-1954 movies has really slowed the last few years, with only three new-to-blu movies last year through WAC, and two the year before (meanwhile, in 2016, they had more releases from that time period than the last two years combined). I do wonder how much the difference in aspect ratios is part of what affects that. And, as has been mentioned earlier in this thread, WAC has had very few 3-strip technicolor releases, which tells me they must be expensive to restore. Again, if we want more, we HAVE to support these releases with day 1, full price purchases, instead of waiting for 4 for $44 sales, which don't do WAC as much good (or us, either, if we actually want these releases).

  38. AnthonyClarke

    You can't go wrong with 'Two Weeks with Love'. What a gem of a musical.

    You most certainly can go wrong with Two Weeks With Love. The MOD disc is totally sub-standard! I'm not at all surprised that Warner Archive have not released this film on Blu-ray disc.

  39. My comment of course was about this marvelous musical, not the present DVD, which I do view occasionally despite its faults. Surely a better presentation could be managed for Blu ray, even if not a perfect one. It's a blissful little movie, especially for Jane Powell's 'Oceana Roll' which I still play on its original MGM 78 rpm disc, and for Debbie Reynold's everything….

  40. I'm wondering if this is only coming out on blu-ray, because the Master for the DVD was nothing short of ravishing. If so, I guess that means that the possibility of other 3-strip musicals (whose quality on DVD is not as great) making it to blu-ray is much slimmer, because the restorations would be much more costly. Anyway, I'm over the moon at the thought of this coming out on blu-ray! What an incredible film! There should be more of MGM's three-strip musicals on blu-ray by now and hopefully more will come in the future. EVERYONE, BUY THIS DISC.

  41. redhotandbluetechnicolor

    I'm wondering if this is only coming out on blu-ray, because the Master for the DVD was nothing short of ravishing. If so, I guess that means that the possibility of other 3-strip musicals (whose quality on DVD is not as great) making it to blu-ray is much slimmer, because the restorations would be much more costly. Anyway, I'm over the moon at the thought of this coming out on blu-ray! What an incredible film! There should be more of MGM's three-strip musicals on blu-ray by now and hopefully more will come in the future. EVERYONE, BUY THIS DISC.

    Welcome aboard!

    I assume you're referring to Summer Stock. Undoubtedly a major reason this is coming out on Blu-ray disc is that the elements are in good condition. It has been a recurring characteristic of the Warner Archive Blu-ray program that films that already looked good on DVD are given a Blu-ray outing while films that looked bad on DVD languish in the vaults. There have been one or two exceptions to this rule but not many.

  42. Robin9

    Welcome aboard!

    I assume you're referring to Summer Stock. Undoubtedly a major reason this is coming out on Blu-ray disc is that the elements are in good condition. It has been a recurring characteristic of the Warner Archive Blu-ray program that films that already looked good on DVD are given a Blu-ray outing while films that looked bad on DVD languish in the vaults. There have been one or two exceptions to this rule but not many.

    That's what I was afraid of…I guess we have several possibilities to look forward to then. Such as The Harvey Girls, Till the Clouds Roll By, and even Good News. There are several others that don't look great that I think would be too good to pass up though. Maybe Criterion will pick those up if they're passed on by Warner.

  43. redhotandbluetechnicolor

    That's what I was afraid of…I guess we have several possibilities to look forward to then. Such as The Harvey Girls, Till the Clouds Roll By, and even Good News. There are several others that don't look great that I think would be too good to pass up though. Maybe Criterion will pick those up if they're passed on by Warner.

    I join in welcoming you here!
    Personally, I would say that I have my doubts that Till The Clouds Roll By will come from WAC for two reasons (both guesses on my part): 1) that movie is in a quasi-public domain status (some think it is PD, some don't), which, considering WAC's reluctance to release any pre-1954 MGM musicals on Blu-ray until this release of Summer Stock, seems unlikely to come soon, and 2) we think Criterion has licensed AT LEAST the 1936 Showboat (since the WAC DVD release is out-of-print, and that shouldn't be the case if it hasn't been licensed out), and they might also have the '29 and '51 versions (and maybe Till The Clouds Roll By, as they aren't as bothered by releasing PD stuff). Of course, I agree with your sentiment in your previous post, that we need to support Summer Stock with Day 1, full-price purchases if we want more!

  44. Astairefan

    I join in welcoming you here!
    Personally, I would say that I have my doubts that Till The Clouds Roll By will come from WAC for two reasons (both guesses on my part): 1) that movie is in a quasi-public domain status (some think it is PD, some don't), which, considering WAC's reluctance to release any pre-1954 MGM musicals on Blu-ray until this release of Summer Stock, seems unlikely to come soon, and 2) we think Criterion has licensed AT LEAST the 1936 Showboat (since the WAC DVD release is out-of-print, and that shouldn't be the case if it hasn't been licensed out), and they might also have the '29 and '51 versions (and maybe Till The Clouds Roll By, as they aren't as bothered by releasing PD stuff). Of course, I agree with your sentiment in your previous post, that we need to support Summer Stock with Day 1, full-price purchases if we want more!

    I like your intuition. It makes perfect sense that the reason that the '36 Show Boat is now out-of-print might just be because there is a Criterion Box of all three versions in the works. I hope you're right!

  45. That long list of MGM films that should be on Blu Ray is great and I agree with the best moments songs listed. There is a problem with The Great Ziegfeld(no not the length) in that the surviving materials are very scratched overall and would take a lot of work if it can be cleaned up. When the Clark Gable Mutiny on the Bounty(1935) came out on Laserdisc(I have it still) they noted that the surviving materials, thru overuse of the negative were below par. Ziegfeld is way below that an I had no problem with the quality of Mutiny. Here's hoping we get more of these soon. George F did say in a recent podcast that they had a musical planned from the 50s, perhaps it was Summer Stock. It is worth noting that the UK title was very similar to the title of Judy's last released feature film(originally going to be called The Lonely Stage and we have a trailer made for that title). Summer Stock was stage in UK due to the phrase "Summer Stock" not known there. A series of Twofer LPs of MGM musicals that were released in UK years later retained the UK release title on the cover for Summer Stock.

  46. Mark-P

    I like your intuition. It makes perfect sense that the reason that the '36 Show Boat is now out-of-print might just be because there is a Criterion Box of all three versions in the works. I hope you're right!

    Well, I can't claim to be the first person to think it. I just latched onto it, since it was the first indication that ANYTHING that Warner Bros. owned from the thirties was being considered for Blu-ray for the first time since 2015. I really don't see what else it could be. I know Warner should still have the rights, and I doubt they would be pulling it for a new transfer, considering this was released for WAC's fifth anniversary (and not in their first year before they started remastering). I can't see Shout licensing it (since they don't seem to be getting DVD rights), so unless Warner has licensed out to anybody else (and they've been keeping it a secret for half a year), it would have to be Criterion. And with that long delay, I can only believe they are planning a box set (and, again, I hope they include the full Till The Clouds Roll By)!

  47. The copyrights to "Till The Clouds Roll By" and "Royal Wedding" were not renewed after 28 years which was necessary prior to a change copyright law . Once something is in public domain it can't be put under copyright again. However there could be elements in the film(s) that are still protected by copyright such as the music. There is no list of films that are public domain. Anyone can publish anything without permission. It is up to the owners of the work to assert their rights. Reasons for owners not asserting their rights could be because they are dead without leaving any heirs or perhaps the cost to defend their rights exceed the benefits. If no one objects then the person who put out a copy without permission can continue to do so. Anyone can use the characters of Dorothy, the Scarecrow, etc from the novel , The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" because the book is in public domain but they can't use the music from 1939 MGM musical or the Ruby Red Slippers without permission because they were created for the MGM film which is still protected by copyright. The novel and musical, "Wicked" did not have to pay the estate of Frank L Baum or Warner Bros to produce their book and musical. However if anyone makes a movie with the characters they can't call "The Wicked Witch of The West" by the name Elphaba, because that is unique to "Wicked" and they would need to obtain permission from the "Wicked" rights holder to do so.

  48. Garysb

    The copyrights to "Till The Clouds Roll By" and "Royal Wedding" were not renewed after 28 years which was necessary prior to a change copyright law . Once something is in public domain it can't be put under copyright again. However there could be elements in the film(s) that are still protected by copyright such as the music. There is no list of films that are public domain. Anyone can publish anything without permission. It is up to the owners of the work to assert their rights. Reasons for owners not asserting their rights could be because they are dead without leaving any heirs or perhaps the cost to defend their rights exceed the benefits. If no one objects then the person who put out a copy without permission can continue to do so. Anyone can use the characters of Dorothy, the Scarecrow, etc from the novel , The Wonderful Wizard of Oz" because the book is in public domain but they can't use the music from 1939 MGM musical or the Ruby Red Slippers without permission because they were created for the MGM film which is still protected by copyright. The novel and musical, "Wicked" did not have to pay the estate of Frank L Baum or Warner Bros to produce their book and musical. However if anyone makes a movie with the characters they can't call "The Wicked Witch of The West" by the name Elphaba, because that is unique to "Wicked" and they would need to obtain permission from the "Wicked" rights holder to do so.

    All I'm trying to say is that the public domain status of these movies leaves me guessing that WAC is unlikely to bother with them. After all, if they are barely releasing ANY musicals on Blu-ray that were made before 1954, then why would they try to lead with PD movies, where sales might get hurt purely because of that fact? I mean, on that same subject, we haven't exactly seen Father's Little Dividend to go with their release of Father Of The Bride nearly three years ago. If Criterion licenses any of these, though, then there might be hope, as they aren't bothered by this as much.

  49. Anyone else think it a little odd that WAC hasn't put a pre-order link up yet for a title supposedly being released by the end of this month? Usually, WAC's releases come out second or third week of the month. We're already into week 2 of April. Thoughts?

  50. Nick*Z

    Anyone else think it a little odd that WAC hasn't put a pre-order link up yet for a title supposedly being released by the end of this month? Usually, WAC's releases come out second or third week of the month. We're already into week 2 of April. Thoughts?

    Yeah, something is going on as I update the Amazon Pre-Order Listing in my signature on a daily basis. It's not just "Summer Stock" which should be released on April 30th, but also "A Patch of Blue" and "Frankenstein 1970" which is supposed to be released today. Also, it's not just Amazon, but other retailers too.

  51. moviepas

    That long list of MGM films that should be on Blu Ray is great and I agree with the best moments songs listed. There is a problem with The Great Ziegfeld(no not the length) in that the surviving materials are very scratched overall and would take a lot of work if it can be cleaned up. When the Clark Gable Mutiny on the Bounty(1935) came out on Laserdisc(I have it still) they noted that the surviving materials, thru overuse of the negative were below par. Ziegfeld is way below that an I had no problem with the quality of Mutiny. Here's hoping we get more of these soon. George F did say in a recent podcast that they had a musical planned from the 50s, perhaps it was Summer Stock. It is worth noting that the UK title was very similar to the title of Judy's last released feature film(originally going to be called The Lonely Stage and we have a trailer made for that title). Summer Stock was stage in UK due to the phrase "Summer Stock" not known there. A series of Twofer LPs of MGM musicals that were released in UK years later retained the UK release title on the cover for Summer Stock.

    The Great Ziegfeld on DVD had moments of inconsistent clarity and a few instances of haloing, but otherwise looked more than presentable for a basic Blu-ray clean-up and release. We need this one in hi-def – a cultural touchstone in musicals in many ways. I would also add, the Astaire/Rogers catalog, and the Busby Berkeley films to this list of 'must haves' and the various Broadway Melody installments too. Deteriorating quality is not a reason to simply forget about a release entirely until the day comes when no such preservation will even be possible. It's not an option, folks.

  52. Robert Crawford

    Yeah, something is going on as I update the Amazon Pre-Order Listing in my signature on a daily basis. It's not just "Summer Stock" whichs should be released on April 30th, but also "A Patch of Blue" and "Frankenstein 1970" which is supposed to be released today. Also, it's not just Amazon, but other retailers too.

    Thanks for the update. I thought something was remiss. Perhaps, all of them have merely been pushed back to next month, RE: replication errors, or other production delays.

  53. Nick*Z

    Thanks for the update. I thought something was remiss. Perhaps, all of them have merely been pushed back to next month, RE: replication errors, or other production delays.

    PS – just checked WAC's Facebook and NO updates there since their initial March 19th post announcing all of April's pending titles. Hmmmm.

  54. Well, I thought I saw Summer Stock, Frankenstein 1970 and Shameless: Season 9 listed on the wbshop, with their correct dates (no sign of A Patch Of Blue, however, so I suspect that one has been delayed).

  55. Astairefan

    Well, I thought I saw Summer Stock, Frankenstein 1970 and Shameless: Season 9 listed on the wbshop, with their correct dates (no sign of A Patch Of Blue, however, so I suspect that one has been delayed).

    You are correct in that all the titles except A Patch of Blue appear on the Warner Archive site. I just ordered Summer Stock and Frankenstein 1970 this morning.

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