Venom (October 5, 2018) (1 Viewer)

[TravisR]

Tom Hardy has seem to hit that Marlon Brando, Johnny Depp or Nicolas Cage level where their talent drives them seemingly insane and they just start doing weird accents or go so huge & broad just to see how far they can go in their roles.

 

[Malcolm R]

I wish he'd stop screwing around and get started on the second season of Taboo.

 

[Jeff Adkins]

But again, notice the "in association with" wording prior to Marvel's name. They're trying to convince people this is in the MCU when it's not.

I'll wait for the reviews. Being "in the MCU" makes no difference to me. There are plenty of good Marvel films that aren't part of the MCU. I'm just not all that excited about the Venom character to begin with.

 

[TJPC]

We go to most Marvel type films, but my wife hates gore of all kinds. Any chance she will be able to see this? The previews look pretty bad.

 

[Jake Lipson]

I'm just going to leave this here.

https://variety.com/2018/film/news/...an-universe-after-venom-exclusive-1202900203/

 

[dpippel]

Groan. They're also moving forward with a Kraven the Hunter movie. Apparently, Sony has lost its collective mind.

 

[Jake Lipson]

They've made this mistake before. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was so loaded with setup for a shared universe that they forgot to actually focus on making that movie good, and it wasn't. Here they go again.

 

[dpippel]

Sony is trying to build a shared universe around Spider-man, without Spider-man. It's crazy. On top of that, and this is of course just my personal opinion, none of these secondary and tertiary characters are that interesting in the first place. I mean really, if they can't drum up some genuine excitement with a Venom film starring Tom Hardy, what chance do any of these other projects have?

 

[Jake Lipson]

Sony is trying to build a shared universe around Spider-man, without Spider-man. It's crazy.

Well, obviously they want to confuse moviegoers into thinking that this is part of the MCU and that Tom Holland or Robert Downy Jr. may appear in future installments. And then they want to get Marvel to loan them characters, which really WOULD retroactively make it part of the MCU. Which ain't gonna happen. But I bet that's what they're hoping.

 

[Malcolm R]

I mean really, if they can't drum up the interest with a Venom film starring Tom Hardy, what chance do any of these other projects have?

The article linked above said early tracking shows Venom headed for a decent opening, so there may be more interest than we think.

 

[dpippel]

I think it's take is going to come in far below expectations, no matter what the early tracking says. Unless it's really good, which seems unlikely, the second weekend falloff will be cliff-like.

 

[dpippel]

Looks like the suits at Sony want to tone it down from R to PG-13:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/09/venom-sony-brass-pushing-for-pg-13-rating-not-r

 

[Malcolm R]

Looks like the suits at Sony want to tone it down from R to PG-13:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/09/venom-sony-brass-pushing-for-pg-13-rating-not-r

That would be a mistake.

 

[dpippel]

I'm reading this as saying they have very little confidence in the film, so they want to cast as wide a net as possible.

 

[Malcolm R]

New pic from EW.com:

 

[Jeff Adkins]

Looks like the suits at Sony want to tone it down from R to PG-13:

http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/08/09/venom-sony-brass-pushing-for-pg-13-rating-not-r

This is exactly why I am so thankful that Fox had the rights to Deadpool and Logan instead of Sony or Disney.

 

[Jeff Adkins]

Well, obviously they want to confuse moviegoers into thinking that this is part of the MCU and that Tom Holland or Robert Downy Jr. may appear in future installments. And then they want to get Marvel to loan them characters, which really WOULD retroactively make it part of the MCU. Which ain't gonna happen. But I bet that's what they're hoping.

I think it all depends on whether or not Sony renews their deal with Marvel. Holland is contracted for one more film with Sony after the deal ends. I could totally see Sony trying to create their own Spider-Verse without Feige's involvement, but we'll see.

 

[Johnny Angell]

New pic from EW.com:

Is this a practical effect? Kinda looks like a costume that will get jazzed up with CGI.

 

[dpippel]

It's official. Venom will be rated PG-13:

http://collider.com/venom-movie-rating-runtime/

 

[Malcolm R]

Pass. We already had a PG-13 Venom (Spider-Man 3) and that didn't go so well.