shows that have been destroyed (1 Viewer)

[MielR]

"Musical Chairs" is indeed likely gone but there are three extant episodes, one archival copy and two episodes from the final show of the next to last week and first show of the final week were uploaded to YT by a contestant! (her final appearance was pre-empted by a Gerald Ford speech).

Thanks for the info. I have another episode (just the audio) that was recorded from TV to a cassette tape.

 

[Jack P]

Would love to hear it if you can ever transfer it! Even audio only of lost game shows can be fun and fascinating (I have audio only of a few other lost shows of that era).

 

[MielR]

Would love to hear it if you can ever transfer it! Even audio only of lost game shows can be fun and fascinating (I have audio only of a few other lost shows of that era).

Yup, I'll try to put it up on YouTube one of these days. I'll let you know when it goes up.

 

[Jack P]

Look forward to that!

 

[Lord Dalek]

Are all the daytime episodes of Hollywood Squares from 1979 gone?

Reportedly a bunch of 1979 episodes were added to pad out the syndication package after the Las Vegas version got cancelled. Its unknown hown many of those survive or what the frequently thrown around number of 3,000 surviving HS tapes consists of if that number is even accurate. The Heater-Quigley/Filmways vault has never been fully cataloged AFAIK. The only shows that reportedly survive are those Hollywood Squares nighttime shows, its CBS prototype The Celebrity Game (one of the very few 60s games that exists on quad) and the original CBS run of Gambit.

I guess a gameshow like Musical Chairs (which had the first African-American host) is likely a goner.

Alas it was the penultimate game show made at WCBS so that does take a solid whack at its survival chances. Don Kirshner was however very good at preserving his other series so there's small chance it might be around.

 

[DeWilson]

I have those PD Life Of Riley releases " from a very "nostalgic" company , and while they're are okay visually, they seem to be from TV
broadcasts .

That "nostalgic" company snatched up the trademarks and logos of the real, original "nostalgic" company that were expired/abandoned and is using that "merchants" company's good name and history to peddle public domain, "boots" and abandoned shows.

 

[LouA]

That "nostalgic" company snatched up the trademarks and logos of the real, original "nostalgic" company that were expired/abandoned and is using that "merchants" company's good name and history to peddle public domain, "boots" and abandoned shows.

I fondly remember buying VHS tapes from that original "nostalgic" company back in the 1980's .Laurel And Hardy , Hideous Sun Demon and many others .

 

[LouA]

Life of Riley wound up with Fox, although as clueless as they are with their properties, they probably don't know it. When they syndicated it in the 80s, they only had 91 shows in the package while 219 were made.

UCLA has copies of all 18 Terry and the Pirates episodes.

AFAIK, Blondie is with Universal and I've no reason to believe otherwise. Just because people have looked for the Bruce Lee episode, doesn't mean they looked there or that they had the money to pay Universal's costs to transfer a 35mm negative.

I know who has all of the My Little Margie episodes, complete and uncut on one inch tape. Not sure where the 35mm negatives reside, although at one point the show was owned by Ziv International (not the same as Fred Ziv's company from the 50s that he sold to UA). That company wound up getting bought out by Warner, so it wouldn't surprise me if the negatives ended up there.

And by the way, if you look up some of these shows on the LOC website, you'll see that many of the ones we assume are PD and that are treated as such, aren't, but instead are "orphaned" shows, which did have copyrights that were renewed but the people who owned them died or the companies that did went out of business.

Regarding My Little Margie . Around two years ago season one was released by Nostalgia Family Home Video and the quality wasn't bad at all and the episodes appeared complete and unedited . I believe this was discussed on another thread, and it was assumed that the 1 inch tapes you referred to were the source for the Nostalgia Family release . No further seasons were release by that company . Since VCI has released 3 My Little Margie DVD sets , and they seem to favor complete series releases (Starlost , Annie Oakley ), maybe your acquaintance should reach out to VCI? It would be nice to see the complete series get a rlease . Just a thought ….

 

[AndyMcKinney]

Are all the daytime episodes of Hollywood Squares from 1979 gone?

The "perceived wisdom" is that the NBC tape wipings stopped sometime in mid-1978, so that would also apply to Hollywood Squares.

If the 1978-1980 daytime episodes are gone, they it would presumably not be the fault of NBC. Most likely, they're sitting in a vault.

 

[bmasters9]

They assume if people don't watch, it's because they don't like the show; they never considered viewers who like a show but hate seeing it mutilated in such a fashion.

Bumping this up-- why is/was presentation style irrelevant to GSN programmers (only total number of viewers counts/counted)?

 

[MatthewA]

The thought likely never occurred to them even though it should have. They were likely also so desperate to cram in as many ads and other forms of on-air visual clutter as possible that they never considered how disorienting the cumulative effect can be to an audience.

 

[bmasters9]

The thought likely never occurred to them even though it should have. They were likely also so desperate to cram in as many ads and other forms of on-air visual clutter as possible that they never considered how disorienting the cumulative effect can be to an audience.

Wish they had, though-- maybe ratings would have been better.

 

[dstrong]

35mm prints of The Loretta Young Show were destroyed after she filed a lawsuit about the show appearing in syndication which would have made her look as if she was wearing out of date fashions. All that survive are grainy 16mm prints.

 

[Lord Dalek]

According to Adam Nedeff at GameShowForum, the original Alex Trebek/Ruta Lee version of High Rollers is intact. Grain of salt.

 

[bmasters9]

According to Adam Nedeff at GameShowForum, the original Alex Trebek/Ruta Lee version of High Rollers is intact. Grain of salt.

So you mean there could be more beyond that July 4, 1975 broadcast that was posted on YouTube a time back?

 

[Lord Dalek]

So you mean there could be more beyond that July 4, 1975 broadcast that was posted on YouTube a time back?

Possibly yes. I would have figured the Elaine episodes are definitely around being syndication shows originally.

One of the biggest stumbling blocks with the Heatter-Quigley library is its owned by MGM which doesn't give a crap about it.

 

[timk1041]

I am not sure if anyone mentioned this earlier, but all except for 3 of the Hullabaloo shows in colour, were destroyed. The rest are only in black & white.

 

[timk1041]

I also forgot to mention, 3 are incomplete and another is missing.

 

[Mark Y]

I also forgot to mention, 3 are incomplete and another is missing.

Speaking of which...unfortunately, this was a lot of years ago and my memory is pretty faulty, but I remember seeing a retrospective music special in the late 1970s which was loaded with performance clips.

There was a clip of the Supremes performing on some show. I don't remember which song they were doing but each of them had a sign behind them showing their name -- Florence, Diana, Mary. Flash forward about 30 years. I picked up a DVD with footage of the Supremes and there is a clip in there which is probably the same one I saw on color video on that late 1970s network special, only now it was from a black and white kinescope.

So did a TV network pull a bunch of color Quad video footage to excerpt into a late 1970s special, and then turn around and trash the tapes later?

(EDIT: I pulled the DVD out. I believe this to be the clip in question, and it is indeed from "Hullabaloo.")

 

[MatthewA]

Those Hullabaloo DVDs from MPI were great. I wish we had gotten more.