Sacramento Kings Baby!!

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Chris_Anders, Apr 30, 2002.

  1. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    They just beat the Jazz, up next Dallas. I think having such a tough first round has made them a better team. The Jazz were a bunch of roughnecks.

    I feel sorry for all those Laker fans out there, because when the Kings and Lakers meet, well, lets just say that the lakers wont be competing for their 3 consecutive championship.
     
  2. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    Any other kings fans out there or what?
     
  3. PhilS

    PhilS Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Sep 1, 2000
    Messages:
    57
    Likes Received:
    0
    The Kings over the Lakers? Yeah, right.
     
  4. Alex-C

    Alex-C Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2000
    Messages:
    1,238
    Likes Received:
    0
    Watching the Kings stick it out against the aging Jazz is one thing. Beating the red hot Mavs is an entirely different matter.
    I am pulling for the Kings, but the Mavs look awesome right now. Maybe the Kings can force them to go inside which is the obvious challenge since the Mavs are an outside shooting team and a damn good one. Right now, today, the way every team looked in Rd 1, I'd say the Mavs have a better shot of de-throning the Lakers then the Kings do.
    of course, the Lakers, they are blessed....did you see that game 3 ? the T-blazers were up 5 points with 1 minute and change, and choked. Did anyone notice Wallace pulling up for a 3 point shot with lotsa time still left on the 24 sec clock ? wot an idiot !
    We'll see how Rd 2 plays out.
    I hope the Kings go all the way, but if not, I hope the Mavs smack the Lakers where it hurts.
    [​IMG]
     
  5. John Spencer

    John Spencer Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2000
    Messages:
    857
    Likes Received:
    0
    I've been a Kings fan since their Kansas City version, and I am very impressed with this year's squad. I think the reason they might fare well against the Mavs is their similar style of play. Utah is just a bruiser of a team, and the Kings haven't handled that well for the past few years. They are a much better team when they don't have to bang it up with their opponents. And there probably isn't a more balanced lineup around than their main 6. So, hopefully, they will be able to shut down the Mavs just enough to wear them down and move on. But this should be one hell of a series.
     
  6. Paul Jenkins

    Paul Jenkins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2000
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree, should be a great series. Compare starting lineups, who do you like?
    Nash versus Bibby - Nash
    Finley versus Christie - Finley
    LaFrentz versus Divac - Divac
    Nowitzki versus Webber - Dirk
    Najera versus Stojakovic - Stojakovic
    Dallas bench versus Sacramento bench - Dallas
    Slight edge to Dallas, IMHO. Of course, being a huge Mavs fan, I'm sure my opinion is clouded [​IMG]
    Paul
     
  7. Johnny wilson

    Johnny wilson Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Apr 29, 2002
    Messages:
    119
    Likes Received:
    0
    They look good, but can they beat the champs? I hope so![​IMG]
     
  8. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    Paul? Nowits over Webber? Dallas' bench over Sacramento's? No WAY. There is just no way. Webber is the best all around player in the league. Credit to Nowits for sure, but Webber can do it all. Sacramento is also KNOWN to have the deepest bench in the entire NBA. Throughout this whole season the bench has come into games and bailed out the starters time and time again. They cover every position. Bobby Jackson for Mike Bibby is no let down. He's a contender for 6th man of the year. Pollard is a defensive rebounding fool. Hedo Turkoglu has moments of absolute brillance when he's not acting like a rookie. They have two solid rookies who can come in and compete by the names of Gerald Wallace and Mateen Cleeves.

    And Finley may be a better offensive player than christi, but wait and see what kind of tough defense Christi plays on Finley. He is one of the top defenders in the league.

    Should be a good series.

    Another thing to keep in mind is the fact that this Dallas team resembles Nelsons Warriors team of old with Run TMC. They were a run and gun team who never made it to the second round, they just didn't have a playoff brand of basketball. Dallas seems to resemble that Warriors team. If they do beat the kings, there is no way they could stop the Lakers, but then again, I don't think they'll get past the Kings.
     
  9. Paul Jenkins

    Paul Jenkins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2000
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yep, Dirk over Chris, sorry. Webber was the best all around player in the league, he isn't any more, IMHO. Dirk has one weakness, and that is his defense, but that has come along this year and he is still very young. I'd take Dirk over most anyone in the league except Shaq and possibly Kobe, he is that good.
    Sacremento isn't KNOWN to have the BEST bench, which is the key, now isn't it? [​IMG]
    We are obviously homers for our respective teams, personally I think Sacramento is the most overrated team in the league, and I think Dallas will win in 6. That is why they play the series though, isn't it [​IMG]
    As for the LA/Mavs matchup, that will also be a good one. I wouldn't sell Dallas short against LA. I think we may be a year away from being to beat LA, but I think once we dispatch Sacremento and LA dispatches San Antonio, the Dallas/LA series goes 7 games, and you never know what happens in a 7th game!
     
  10. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    Yes, actually, Sacramento Is KNOWN to have the best bench in the league. Just look around at NBA sites, or listen to the comments of the broadcasters and coaches. Not just the Sacramento Press but the US press. Look into it a bit and you will see what I'm (and the rest of the country) is talking about.

    Yes I will still stick with Webber over Dirk. I think you are wrong on that point. Having watched Webber play the last three years, AND improve (He will get Better as well) I have to say that Dirk cannot do anything that Webber can't except shoot the three better. Webbers tougher D makes him a better player than Dirk.

    The Kings overrated? No way. They get the "overrated" stereotype just because they are a small market team. Have you watched them play this season besides the highlight reels? They are truely a terrific team and deserving of the 61 wins this season. How can a team be over rated when they have the best record in the league? People say they won't win simply because they haven't proven themselves in the playoffs yet.

    Remember this: Nelsons Warriors = Nelsons 2002 Maverics
     
  11. Paul Jenkins

    Paul Jenkins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2000
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    0
    round and round we go [​IMG] I don't agree that Sacremento has the best bench, nor does many around the country. Here is a quote from ESPN on that subject:
     
  12. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    Agree we do on the excitement level of this series. I honestly think it will be the best to watch of the playoffs short of a Lakers Kings rematch. An I say a Lakers Kings rematch would be as exciting simply because of the heated rivalry between the two teams (and cities).
    Good quote from ESPN. You did your Homework[​IMG] [​IMG]
    Conceeded is the fact that Dallas has better talent off the bench. But talent vs. depth equals out. All around, a fairly matched series is looming.
    You take your Dirk, and I'll take my Webber, and then we can both be happy.[​IMG] We shall see who will be happier after this series though.
     
  13. Paul Jenkins

    Paul Jenkins Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2000
    Messages:
    965
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  14. Chris_Anders

    Chris_Anders Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2001
    Messages:
    95
    Likes Received:
    0
    GO KINGS!
     
  15. ikiru

    ikiru Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 1999
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    Another Dallas homer (and ticket P1) chiming in...

    Sacramento is a very tough team, especially at home. However, the key to this matchup is at point guard. I think that Dallas has the best point guard combo in the league with Nash and Van Exel. They are responsible for most of the good looks that Dallas gets because they have the speed and skill to penetrate and score inside.

    Dallas matches up well against Sac. They beat them 3 out of 4 times (once without Dirk, in Sacramento). Sacramento is great at home with a home record of 36-5, but 2 of those losses are to Dallas.

    Going to be a great matchup!

    -ikiru
     
  16. Howard Williams

    Howard Williams Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Mar 7, 2001
    Messages:
    521
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think this series is gonna pan out to be your classic home court advantage shoot out. Great shooting team always shoot better at home. Sac will win all their home games, so will Dallas. Sac is a little more likely to steal one than Dallas. Sac has a little better defense and inside/outside balance than Dallas. If the jumpshots aren't falling, what cha gonna do Dallas? Sac can go inside with Divac and Weber, and get some fouls on Dirk. Next thing you know Dirk is sitting on the bench watching Sac turn on the boost.

    Either way, I agree this will be the best series this year.....until the next round.
     
  17. ikiru

    ikiru Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jan 17, 1999
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    0
    Given the most recent history, I think that Dallas should win 1 if not 2 games on Sacramento's home court.

    One other thing that Dallas has over Sac is how few Dallas turns the ball over. Dallas does not make dumb mistakes very often and is very good at turing possessions into scoring opportunities.

    -ikiru
     
  18. Juan_R

    Juan_R Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2001
    Messages:
    683
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think the Kings and the Mavs are playing for second place.
     
  19. Alex-C

    Alex-C Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Apr 18, 2000
    Messages:
    1,238
    Likes Received:
    0
    I just have one question for discussion:

    If the Lakers are soooo good and unstoppable, then why didnt they win the Western Conference ?

    I'll admit, they look strong, but they did lose their share of games as well.

    Same goes for the Mavs.

    I guess it comes down to who plays best at this time of year. Just ask Tom Brady !
     
  20. Brian Perry

    Brian Perry Cinematographer

    Joined:
    May 6, 1999
    Messages:
    2,807
    Likes Received:
    0
     

Share This Page