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Official 2024 Oscar Nominations And Discussion Thread (1 Viewer)

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Ehh. Once you say something like that, you can't really take it back and say sorry. I mean, you can, just don't expect everybody to forget what a jerk thing that was to say.
 

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I understand being disappointed if your film doesn't win. That's natural. That's human. That's fine. Of course he would have liked for it to win. But he could have just not posted anything. I would also encourage him to actually watch The Boy and the Heron if he hasn't seen it.
 

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I don't know if that is good news for the Oscars or not.
Viewership has been steadily increasing since 2021 when it hit a low of 10.5 million viewers. That was the COVID hostless ceremony. So I would say it’s good news. Viewers are coming back.
 

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Viewership has been steadily increasing since 2021 when it hit a low of 10.5 million viewers. That was the COVID hostless ceremony. So I would say it’s good news. Viewers are coming back.
Or they're coming back as is reasonable to expect today. I don't know the specifics but I'd bet that football is probably the only thing that can reliably pull 20 million viewers in the modern TV ratings landscape. Yes, it's nowhere near where it used to be but the world has changed.
 

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[...] Sight and Sound poll [...]

This poll is as useless as most any movie ranking poll. It's only elevated by many because they only do it every ten years. They should never even rank them in the first place, just post the list in alphabetical order. I don't want to get into any arguments about any specific films, but they've got two on there in the last poll that are such egregious choices that this should be the last one they ever do.
 

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Or they're coming back as is reasonable to expect today. I don't know the specifics but I'd bet that football is probably the only thing that can reliably pull 20 million viewers in the modern TV ratings landscape. Yes, it's nowhere near where it used to be but the world has changed.
Yes, regular season NFL football games broadcast nationwide on major networks routinely pull 20-40 million viewers.


So if the Oscars were up to 20 million this year, that's pretty good. But as Jake noted previously, this was the year of the two Barbenheimer mega blockbusters up for awards. I would have expected somewhat higher numbers. Have to wait and see what happens the next time the nominations are mostly films no one has seen to see if it's actual interest in the awards or just when certain films are nominated.
 

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Or they're coming back as is reasonable to expect today. I don't know the specifics but I'd bet that football is probably the only thing that can reliably pull 20 million viewers in the modern TV ratings landscape. Yes, it's nowhere near where it used to be but the world has changed.
This poll is as useless as most any movie ranking poll. It's only elevated by many because they only do it every ten years. They should never even rank them in the first place, just post the list in alphabetical order. I don't want to get into any arguments about any specific films, but they've got two on there in the last poll that are such egregious choices that this should be the last one they ever do.
We can agree to disagree on those points.
 

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Which fuels my belief that Scorsese movies now get noms just out of reflex and not because they really deserve it.

Not that I thought either "Irishman" or "Killers" offered bad movies. Both were decent and had good moments, though both also were waaaay longer than they needed to be.

They just weren't movies that seemed especially strong, and I kinda suspect if a less-acclaimed director made either, the noms wouldn't have flowed.
I've left off a few but you see a pattern here. These are long movies ! Somewhere along the line, Marty morphed into David Lean. Less is more Marty! I think these habitually excessive running times have impacted the quality of many of these films and the voters patience with them. I LOVED almost every minute of The Wolf of Wall Street but it's also film about excess. So it works. Hugo was great and only 126 mins.

Killers of the Flower Moon - 206 mins.
The Irishman - 209 mins.
Silence - 161 mins.
The Wolf of Wall Street - 180 mins.
*The Departed - 151 mins. - a decent length and an Oscar winner
The Aviator - 170 mins.
Gangs of New York - 167 mins.
Casino - 178 mins.
 

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Statements from the producer and distributor of The Boy and the Heron have been posted on GKIDS social media. Presumably, something like this would have been said if the filmmakers had been at the awards on Sunday.

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Hugo was great and only 126 mins.
Hugo was aimed in part at family audiences and based on a book for young adults. Scorsese could not get away with one of his recent butt-numbing running times when making a film where children are a part of the intended audience.
 

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Hugo was aimed in part at family audiences and based on a book for young adults. Scorsese could not get away with one of his recent butt-numbing running times when making a film where children are a part of the intended audience.
Marty should keep that in mind more often. I feel 30-40 mins could have been taken out of both The Irishman and KOTFM with no loss of character detail or narrative focus.
 

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That was the most F..ing, f.ing, f.ing f.ed-up In Memoriam I’ve ever seen
Ditto, Ditto, Ditto…and OMG !!!

P.S. Why didn’t AMPAS have Jodie Foster, Robert De Niro and Martin Scorsese reunite on the stage by jointly opening an envelope? Like, maybe, for the predictable and deserving Wes Anderson win. That would’ve been great, as Mr. Scorsese had made a few short films in his career, as well.

P.S.S. Hated the 20 actors giving testimonial speeches to the 20 nominees; as if they were giving out 20 lifetime achievement awards. I mean, this stuff was long. It was as if we were forced to hear 20 readings from 20 Hallmark cards. Somehow they’re allowed to go on and on; yet the actual winners are always at risk of being cut off and given the hook by the orchestra.
 
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Of course, Gosling has also sung and danced on film before in La La Land. He declined to sing "City of Stars" on the Oscars that year (John Legend did it instead) but Gosling could have done it if he had been so inclined.
 

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P.S. Why didn’t AMPAS have Jodie Foster, Robert De Niro and Martin Scorsese reunite on the stage by jointly opening an envelope? Like, maybe, for the predictable and deserving Wes Anderson win. That would’ve been great, as Mr. Scorsese had made a few short films in his career, as well.
We don't know that they didn't ask any of them. A lot of people get asked to do things, but can't commit to it. So they don't happen. Sometimes even those who commit to something end up not doing it, like Michelle Pfeiffer this year. You can't assume things like this, no matter how great the idea is.

P.S.S. Hated the 20 actors giving testimonial speeches to the 20 nominees; as if they were giving out 20 lifetime achievement awards. I mean, this stuff was long. It was as if we were forced to hear 20 readings from 20 Hallmark cards. Somehow they’re allowed to go on and on; yet the actual winners are always at risk of being cut off and given the hook by the orchestra.
I disagree totally with this. I love this idea. For one thing, with these 4 categories you routinely get the person who won the year before to present them. This way you get to see 12 extra celebrities. It's the Oscars. I like seeing these people there, don't you? I also like that their speech to individual nominees gives all of the nominees a nice and deserved moment, especially the ones who aren't going to be awarded the Oscar. What's wrong with that? The article that Joe Wong linked above says, for the most part, they all write their own tribute to said nominee. I hope they continue doing that next year.
 

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