o dear god , please don't let this happen. wizard of oz followup...

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  1. todd stone

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    According to Variety, producer Robert Kosberg is developing Surrender Dorothy, a follow-up to The Wizard of Oz with Drew Barrymore attached to star for Warner Bros.
    good god, why??? drew barrymoore is horrible.
    http://comingsoon.net/cgi-bin/archiv...5177947,75505,
     
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    I must say it's a good title, at least.
     
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    It could be that Kosberg has a death wish. [​IMG]
     
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    They might want to (or have to) consider another title since there was a 1998 film called Surrender Dorothy, although, by all appearances, there would be no confusion between the two. The only reason the title rung a bell was it played at Roger Ebert's first film festival, but I don't think it has anything to do with The Wizard of Oz.
     
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    There have already been countless "sequels" and variations on The Wizard of Oz, so this is hardly a surpise.
    I have zero interest in seeing any of them.
     
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    Frank L Baum wrote 4-5 books
    Ozma of Oz should be the source of any sequel. Gotta wonder if he was secretly a trannsexual [​IMG]
    They hid the true Queen of Oz by magically transforming her into a boy
     
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    IIRC "Surrender Dorothy" was what one of the witches wrote in "skywriting" on her broom in one episode.
     
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    Didn't Disney do a sequel to Wizard of Oz back in the 80's? Called Return to Oz, a creepy film without musical numbers, Dorothy was taken to a mad scientist to try and cure her of 'bad dreams', I thought the film was heavy handed and depressing with some interesting effects, one interpretation is that the hospitals evil looking machinery and witch-like nurse, plus a lightning storm outside terrifies Dorothy into complete insanity, and she never escapes her dreams. Children must have loved this.
     
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    I was wondering why no one had mentioned 1985's reasonably good Return to Oz with Nicole Williamson. Decent film. Leave to Steve Christou in the end. [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]
    BTW, I rather like that film myself, and especially thought Balk was quite good.
    But its creepy by comparison with the very bright and shiny WoOz classic.
    I have no problem with such a sequel to be honest. If it's a good film then I'd love some more of these twisted worlds (not unlike Alice in Wonderland and its variations). If it sucks, well, I have no use for ANY film that sucks, remake or otherwise.
    I used to get bent out of shape over remakes/sequels/TV show films, and I still often think they sound like bad ideas (and usually end up being bad), but I seperate them from any original film. I let them have their shot to be good or bad on their own.
    It's one reason the revisit to Red Dragon doesn't bug me in the least, though I still like the angle Manhunter went with a little better (and to be honest I rather enjoyed Brian Cox as Hannibal...great actor).
     
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    Any number of excellent movies could be made from the wonderful 'Oz' books by Baum.
    The original Judy Garland musical is great in its own right (but VERY different from the mood of the books).
    Anybody who hates then 1985 'Return' film would likely hate the original books, which were very revered in the early 20th century and ultimately led to many movies including the musical.
     
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    I liked "Return to Oz". My only beef was that since I was pretty young at the time I saw it, I didnt understand how come the actors were all different. Now, though, I'm pretty OK with it.
     
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    There are lots of Oz books. I read most of them when I was young, but I'm sure a lot of the political satire went right over my head. Such as the Flatheads who went about with their brains in a tin can, or H.M. Wogglebug, T.E. (Highly Magnified, Thoroughly Educated).
    Here's a fairly complete list:
    http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/H...96/ozcanon.htm
     
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    I never could get into the original wizard of oz no matter how many times they played it as I was growing up. Return to Oz I think is a classic although it doesn't have a large fan base. it's very similar in tone to the original Oz books (of which I believe baum wrote 12 or 13, quite a few written later on by other people). Don't know why people assume children's books/movies can't or shouldn't be frightening. I wouldn't mind seeing some of the non-dorothy oz books either.
    I wouldn't mind hearing more about this if they kept the tone of the books. I'd even give drew barrymore a chance then[​IMG]
    Michael
     

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