Marantz SR6300 seems underpowered! Help...

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  1. MichaelSLB

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    Hi

    I've owned my Marantz SR6300 for just over two weeks now
    and it seems underpowered to me. It sounds great with music
    and pretty good with HT, BUT...

    I'm running a 5 speaker HT set-up with Dahlquists (fast,
    efficient speakers) and this receiver just doesn't seem to
    have the power to really play loud. I have to turn it up
    to -20 (max is +12) just to get any decent sound from
    movies. And my room is only 1824 cubic feet.

    I'm a little worried that this receiver may not have
    anywhere close to the claimed 100w x 6, and could clip --
    damaging my new Dahlquists. (I had a similar problem with
    the SR5300 model... damaging my old speakers -- which led
    me to upgrade and try the 6300.)

    Also, I was listening to a H/K 230 today, turned up to -24
    and it was WAY louder than my system turned up to -20. (It
    was set up with 4 Polk Audio RTi8 Tower Speakers and the
    matching Polk center) at Future Shop, in an open room.

    Anyone know what MAX volume is on the H/K 230?

    I'm now thinking I should return my Marantz and possibly
    go with the H/K. Any opinions or help with this would be
    greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance for your help!

    Michael
     
  2. Pablo Abularach

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    I have the SR6200 for almost two years now, and I have the same impresion as you, Underpower [​IMG] , but as you Im very happy with the sound it has [​IMG], I have to take the volume to -20 to -15 to get decent SPLs, but from there its very strong and it doesnt get that hot. I had the same worry as you, but still runing strong after a year and a half. But I'm runing JBL S26. I haven audition the SR6300, but did audition the SR7300 OSE, and imho it was better in everything, including the amp, but not that much, so I decided to stick with the SR6200. I think if you like to hear your music and movies loud, maybe you should look for another reciever, but you will loose the special sound marantz has. Im very tempted to upgrade to the HK 7200 very nice on music and movies.
     
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    I have the SR6200 as well and compared to my old Denon 2801 I never got the same noticable "omph" when I turn the knob compared to when I twisted the fun knob on my Denon. With that said I have never had a problem getting the receiver to play at high volumes (as high as I normally would play my Denon), it just takes more twisting that's all [​IMG]
     
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    I had a 6200 for 2 years, and -20 was normal playing volume, and I think that seemed to be fairly average around here. I had a 6300 for a week to try out as well, and it was about the same.

    You can't compare the numbers on the dail from one brand to another, since there is no relationship between the meaning of these numbers.

    Going from a 5300 to a 6300 was an improvement, but probably not a big enough one. I found that the 6200 would not clip with my Paradigm Monitors even at 0, but that after about -5, it did not really get any louder (starting to run out of power).

    When I upgraded my speakers to GR A/V-2s, which are 4 Ohm, I knew the 6200 would not handle them, so I moved to an 8300. I thought the 8300 would be strained with these speakers, and was thinking of external amplification, but it seems to be handling my setup quite well.

    My recommendation would be to take a look at the 7300 OSE, as Pablo mentioned, or get a separate amp for your mains.
     
  5. MichaelSLB

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    Thanks for all the help so far!

    Quick question: would I see a noticable improvement in
    power if I upgraded to the 7300 (not OSE) to warrant the
    $100 - $200 cost?

    Other receivers I'm considering are the H/K 330 and the
    Pioneer Elite VSX-43, but unfortunately my dealer doesn't
    carry either so I'd have to return my 6300 for a refund.

    Any feedback on these, or what option to go with? I know
    H/K *under-rates* their power supply, but what about the
    Elite?

    Oh,... and HT sound is slightly more important to me than
    music, but I still LOVE a good sounding music receiver -
    thus my choices of the H/K and Elite. [​IMG]

    Thanks,
    Michael
     
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    I believe with the Marantz they have a low Db increase per number increase. I tested the 6200 and noticed the same thing. Had to turn it in the 20's in order to get it loud.
    Every company has there (Knobvolume #) to Db increase different.
     
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    Micheal,

     
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    I have auditioned both MarantzSR6300 and Pioneer43TX in my home along with Yamaha RXV1300 (with JBL speakers). Loudness wise 6300 and 43TX were exactly the same. Whereas Yamaha on the other hand, I could play way louder than the other two, but lacked in bass. If you find 6300 not loud enough than you wouldn't find 43TX either. I picked 43TX as I liked it's sound for movies and it is THX certified.
     
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    43TX is THX select certified, just like the 8200/8300. I did not like the Pioneers until I got to the 45Tx and up. The 49Tx is a great receiver, TONS of power, very good DACs, though at it's price point, I'd rather look at separates.
     
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    I would agree with the posts regarding the disconcerting nature of the Marantz volume controls. You have to turn them way up to get any SPLs, and then there is very little margin between reference and too loud. Don't know why the design of that control is so poor, as overall I like the sound of their units. The 7300 OSE is a subtly great unit, with sonics hard to match in it's price range...
     
  11. MichaelSLB

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    WOW... thanks for all the great input so far!
    I also talked to my Marantz dealer today with
    some good news: They'll let me bring this unit
    back after Xmas when they get the new "400"
    models in and upgrade with no strings attached!

    I've also heard that the new Marantz line is
    *guaranteeing* 70% power with all channels
    driven, which sounds very good (for a change). I
    think this is the route I'll probably go with, as
    I do love the Marantz line.

    Michael
     
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    WOW... thanks for all the great input so far!

    I talked to my Marantz dealer today with some
    good news: They'll let me bring this unit back
    after Xmas when they get the new "400" models
    in and upgrade with no strings attached! [​IMG]

    I've also heard that the new Marantz line is
    *guaranteeing* 70% power with all channels
    driven, which sounds very good (for a change). I
    think this is the route I'll probably go with, as
    I do love the Marantz line.

    Michael
     
  13. John Nunet

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    If you want more power ,pick up a good power amp ( parasound etc..)and use your reciever as a pre/pro.
     
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    Good for you Mike. What store is that? I'm from Edmonton too.
     
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    They actually didn't have a 43 when I listened, just 41, 45, 47 and 49 (a few months ago). The 41 was not impressive at all, it had no oomph. The 45 and 47 sounded similar to eachother and very decent, but there seemed to be a noticable increase when moving to the 49. 222ES and Vienna Acoustics Motzarts / 2ch SACD.
     
  16. MichaelSLB

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    Hey Kam

    I deal with the downtown A & B Sound... they're very
    helpful! Just see either Sheldon, Jason, or Darryl. [​IMG]

    Michael
     

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