M1/M2 Powered iPad Pro buyers and owners thread (1 Viewer)

[Ronald Epstein]

Apple seems to know not know or are conflicted on what to grind on with the iPad.

The hardware is so advanced, but the OS is years behind. Their multi-tasking model simply isn't good enough, but after years of iterations, they don't get it better or right.

Grinding isn't enough. There has to be vision and and ability to execute the vision. It's really unclear if Apple has a coherent vision for "iPad Pro". And they seem stuck grinding UI path for ipadOS that doesn't lead to the incredible user abilities that the Mac did 40 years ago.

The technology is great and I enjoy it. But it's also in a weird state.

I am going to dare to come in here and agree with that knowing I am going to get slammed for saying it.

I still watch countless videos on YouTube with reviewers saying that iPAD OS is the weakest link to the iPad and for that reason, it can't be considered a laptop replacement.

For me, it's still much easier to multitask and do all the things I need to on a daily basis using a laptop.

I am actually buying the new 12.9" iPad Pro knowing I will hardly use it. However, spending that kind of money will give me an incentive to really put it to use as a desktop device.

I have the Magic Keyboard on my bucket list. However, at $300 or more, it's just a difficult purchase. I am hoping, however, when I do have the opportunity to purchase it, I can better attempt to replicate the laptop/desktop experience.

 

[DaveF]

That's great. I'm not saying an iPad can't be used for real work.

But my experience is the multi-tasking features are too complex and fussy and seemingly random to use. I'm a pretty tech-savvy person, and I've tried. But I just can't get into the groove with iPad's approach to multi-tasking applications.

 

[Sam Posten]

Agree to disagree. Mine is my laptop replacement, does everything I need but I get that others want more. I don’t think it simply running MacOS will satisfy you either.

 

[DaveF]

It’s not about running MacOS on an iPad. It’s watching Apple struggle to invent the next generation UI and OS. And not sure they can do it. There may not be a next gen that is unequivocally better than keyboard and mouse based on touch. It may be they’ve got something that’s super great for certain things, is ok-enough for lots of stuff, but simply cannot be good enough to displace conventional mouse/windows/keyboard for.

 

[Sam Posten]

It’s not about running MacOS on an iPad. It’s watching Apple struggle to invent the next generation UI and OS. And not sure they can do it. There may not be a next gen that is unequivocally better than keyboard and mouse based on touch. It may be they’ve got something that’s super great for certain things, is ok-enough for lots of stuff, but simply cannot be good enough to displace conventional mouse/windows/keyboard for.

Nobody else is even close either. That should inform the argument. windows touch is barfarooni

 

[Sam Posten]

Blargh, now sites are reporting the old magic keyboard won’t work with the new iPad. That’s some bullshit they didn’t make it clear

New 2021 12.9-inch iPad Pro can't use previous Magic Keyboard | AppleInsider

Buyers of the new 2021 12.9-inch iPad Pro will not be able to use the previous model's Magic Keyboard.

appleinsider.com

Not sure this is trustworthy

 

[Ronald Epstein]

Blargh, now sites are reporting the old magic keyboard won’t work with the new iPad. That’s some bullshit they didn’t make it clear

New 2021 12.9-inch iPad Pro can't use previous Magic Keyboard | AppleInsider

Buyers of the new 2021 12.9-inch iPad Pro will not be able to use the previous model's Magic Keyboard.

appleinsider.com

Not sure this is trustworthy

OMG! OMG!

This is horribly tragic if true (and I assume it is).

Apple didn't test this product on their current keyboard?

I mean, there aren't any new revisions of the magic keyboard being offered other than a white color of what I assume is the current offering.

I have a Logitech keyboard folio that was designed for the prior models and now I am wondering if that will still fit.

This is inexcusable and I am wondering how Apple will (nor can) address this.

 

[Sam Posten]

No they are making newer versions of the black keyboard too, according to that article. I remain dubious but it’s messed up either way

 

[Ronald Epstein]

No they are making newer versions of the black keyboard too, according to that article. I remain dubious but it’s messed up either way

It is messed up.

So, there is an actual re-design of the Magic Keyboard available?

I thought they simply slapped a white color on the current model.

Good for those buying a keyboard for the first time, but awful to those that spent $300 for their prior iPad Pro and now have to buy a new one.

 

[Johnny Angell]

I am actually buying the new 12.9" iPad Pro knowing I will hardly use it. However, spending that kind of money will give me an incentive to really put it to use as a desktop device.

Good for those buying a keyboard for the first time, but awful to those that spent $300 for their prior iPad Pro and now have to buy a new one.

Apple has built a following that will buy Apple no matter what. It seems to me that Apple has little incentive to have the best OS nor incentive to be price competitive. We’ve got a “cult of Apple” now. When you say you will buy the new product “knowing I will hardly use it”, well that makes no sense to me.

Yeah, all my electronics are Apple but I don’t upgrade my phone every year, both our Macs are several years old and I hope are the last Macs we buy. Also have an ATV4K but won’t upgrade it until something that provides real additional value comes out. Spatial audio might have been it.

 

[Nelson Au]

It’s too soon to really know if the keyboard will not fit I would think, unless it’s really been confirmed with a real 5th gen iPad Pro.

I have some experience in product development and I’m very sure Apple made every attempt to make the new iPad Pro fit any existing accessories such as the existing keyboard. The new iPad Pro had to grow in thickness from 5.9 to 6.4mm. From what I can tell, that was due to the new display. So the added thickness could affect how the existing keyboard folds around the 5th generation iPad Pro. My guess, without knowing all the technical details, the existing keyboard would still attach, but perhaps the added thickness may not allow the keyboard to close as nicely on the iPad Pro?

In looking at Apple’s website that has a comparison page between the 5th and 4th generation, the Smart Keyboard folio and Magic Keyboard is compatible with the 3rd, 4th and 5th generation iPad Pro. I guess we’ll know when the iPad Pro starts showing up in people’s hands.

 

[Sam Posten]

It’s official now @Nelson Au @Ronald Epstein

Apple burns early iPad Pro adopters, loyal customers with Magic Keyboard incompatibility | AppleInsider

In making the $349 2020 Magic Keyboard incompatible with the 2021 iPad Pro just a year after it launched, and not offering early adopters a reasonable upgrade path as an alternative, Apple risks burning its most devoted — and highest spending — iPad users.

appleinsider.com

 

[Sam Posten]

Added a new accessory to my old pro. Excited to try Xbox streaming on m1

 

[Nelson Au]

Hey Sam, it’s still not 100% clear to me about the Magic Keyboard incompatibility. I’m not convinced yet because as of last night Apple’s site still says the Magic keyboard is compatible with the iPad Pro 3rd, 4th and 5th Generation. And that article doesn’t show an actual 2021 iPad Pro attached to the old keyboard.

I know if you go to the product page, it does say it’s compatible with the 5th generation only. So the Magic Keyboard from last year might very well be incompatible with the 5th generation iPad Pro. I have no skin in this game, I have never purchased a keyboard for my iPad Pro’s. I’m quite happy using the on screen keyboard. Though I often press the same wrong letters or keys as I type. My point mainly is that a responsible company would do its best to make accessories work if possible. But in this case, I can believe because the new iPad Pro has the new display, it makes the iPad Pro thicker. So it follows the old keyboard may not fit as well as it does on the 4th generation iPad Pro. And that’s unfortunate, but as a product gets revised, these things happen.

 

[DaveF]

Maybe it’s echo-chamber, but everyone is reporting the original keyboard doesn’t fit the new 13” iPad Pro. Seems to be widely accepted as truth at this point.

 

[Sam Posten]

Maybe it’s echo-chamber, but everyone is reporting the original keyboard doesn’t fit the new 13” iPad Pro. Seems to be widely accepted as truth at this point.

Yes. New one fits all models. Old keyboards do not fit the new 12.9

 

[Nelson Au]

That makes sense, the new keyboard fits older 3rd, 4th and 5th gen iPad Pros.

 

[Sam Posten]

20 20 20 24 hours to go, I wanna be sedated.

Procreate says its M1 iPad Pro app is 4x faster than current version

Procreate has said that its iPad app will run 4x faster on Apple's new iPad Pro thanks to the M1 chip.

www.imore.com

 

[Nelson Au]

Thanks Sam! That’s good news about procreate. I might have to use it more!

I checked the other design app I use, sketchbook from Autodesk. It appears they are behind the ball. I saw reports of people upgrading to M1 MacBook Pro’s and the desktop version of sketchbook is not fully compatible yet while in Big Sur. And these new Macs cannot downgrade to Catalina. It will be interesting to see if sketchbook will be ok on the M1 iPad Pro.

 

[Sam Posten]

Apple Says New 12.9-Inch iPad Pro is 'Functionally Compatible' With Older Magic Keyboard, But Fit May Be Imperfect When Closed

The new 12.9-inch M1 iPad Pro is 0.5mm thicker than the previous-generation version, which has led to fears that it won't be compatible with the...

www.macrumors.com