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I Think 'Frasier' Jumped The Shark On Tuesday

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Chuck C, Nov 21, 2002.

  1. Chuck C

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    I really wasn't feeling this Tuesday's "special-Niles has surgery" 'Frasier'. The writers evoked a tremendous amount of drama, esp. with Daphne. The theme "do you think the hospital remembers people" was creative and evecuted in a somewhat orignal fashion, but I was not hip to it. This episdoe should have been reserved for Thursday night at 10pm! any other thoughts?
     
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    "Very special" episodes are usually prime shark-jumping season.
     
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    I believe I hear the theme from "Jaws.''
     
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    I didn't watch it. What was the surgery for?
     
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    Isn't "Frasier" supposed to be a comedy? This doesn't sound that funny, to me... I have it on tape though, haven't watched it yet.
     
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    I dunno, I thought Tuesday's episode was very well done (unlike NBC's noxious promos). And yes, it was funny in the right spots.

    I don't believe in the whole "jump the shark" thing. Tracing a series' decline to a single moment or episode is kind of silly, IMO (although I admit it can be fun as well). "Frasier" is a very good show in its sunset years. It doesn't hit the highs as often or as well as it did before, but it's still worth watching due to its brilliant cast, which is simply one of the finest ensembles in sitcom history (and which, amazingly, has been together for 10 years now).
     
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    Craig,

    The creator of the Jump The Shark site stated that a "Jump The Shark moment", doesn't mean the show is done/horrible, it just means that it's a moment where you say to yourself, "ok, this show isn't quite as good as it used to be".

    These moments usually occur when a show has been on for a long time, and all other avenues have been persued.

    To me, Fraiser jumped a while back, but I still watch it every week, because it still has many redeeming qualities.
     
  8. Chuck C

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    Craig, I agree that Frasier is having a great "sunset" run, but I fell that the "very Special" episode was out of place. I thought this season was doing great until the two-part surgery episode hit. That said, I bet Frasier will bounce back immediately with another funny episode.
     
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    it jumped for me last year or so when almost every ep was about niles and daphne and not fraser
     
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    That was an excellent episode - well written, and the usual great performances.
    It's very rare that a comedy can get away with this sort of drama in an episode. The last time I remember this sort of thing was the finale of Blackadder Goes Forth.
     
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    I think the phrase "jump the shark" has jumped the shark.
     
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    I love Frasier, but the promos made me decide to avoid this ep. I just can't abide "drama" in a sitcom.
     
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    I agree, in fact I think that the phrase "I think the phrase "jump the shark" has jumped the shark" has jumped the shark. [​IMG]
     
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    I liked the first part. They "one in a million" gag was funny. The second part just wasn't well directed. It didn't flow and the flashbacks seemed forced.
     
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    I for one was floored by the fact these last couple of episodes actually resembled the previews. NBC has been horrible with the promos for Fraiser going back a few years now.
     
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    I hate to break the bad news, but Fraiser jumped the shark years ago.
     
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    "Will & Grace" jump about a dozen sharks with that stupid wedding.
     
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    I don't watch Frasier, but I'll never understand why these sitcoms continuously insist on doing these "Very Special" episodes. Cheers and Seinfeld are the only two long-lasting sitcoms I can think of that never did this. One could probably even argue that Cheers actually did, but even when they did it always seemed to be a big joke and was still funny (Eddie LeBeck being killed by a zamboni comes to mind).
     

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