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  1. RichN

    RichN Stunt Coordinator

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    Hi all, I just joined yesterday, and this is my first post, so I hope I am in the right section. I just bought a Sony 36XBR450 and I want to connect the audio to my Kenwood VR-509 receiver. I plan on running all my video through the TV, so I just need the audio from the TV to get to the receiver. I plan on connecting it to the Video1 Play In inputs because the book says to use digital audio for Video2 and Video3. My question is: Should I use the "Monitor out" audio or the "Audio output" and should it be fixed or variable from the TV? I am guessing that fixed would let me control the volumn from the receiver rather than from the TV and variable would be controlled by the TV. Am I right?
    And as long as I'm here. I have a DVD player with 5.1 outputs that I am going to connect to the DVD/6ch inputs of the receiver. BUT, suppose I want to play a DVD that was not recorded with 5.1 (maybe it's DSP or DTS). Do I also need to connect an optical or coaxial cable to the CD/DVD input and use that setting for non-5.1 DVDs?
    Thanks for putting up with my "connective ignorance", but I've never delt with DVDs or 5.1 hookups before.
    RichN
     
  2. Dave Reichert

    Dave Reichert Stunt Coordinator

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    As for the TV sound, I don't think it would make a difference between Monitor Out and the other one.

    For the DVD sound, just run a single optical or coaxial cable from the DVD player to the receiver. I've found that this is usually easier than letting the DVD player do the decoding.
     
  3. Jason Wolters

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    Rich,

    I have the Kenwood VR 507 and I think it is the same.

    You can do this a couple of diffferent ways. The most popular way is as follows.

    Hook the video and digital audio out on the DVD player to the video IN and digital IN on the DVD 6 Channel. Take the audio and video out on the TV, VCR (etc.) and run them to the seperate inputs on the Kenwood. Run the red, *yellow and white cables from the output of each device (tv,vcr) to the inputs (match the colors) on the Kenwood. For TV run it to Video 1. For VCR run it to Video 2. For DVD run it to DVD 6 Channel. You will not need to run anything but a digital audio and a vidoe cable to the DVD 6 channel. Now, with that said if you ever want to play analog sources in your DVD player like a CD you will also need to have the red and white cables run from the output on the DVD player to the input on the DVD 6 channel. By the way, all DVDs will have digital output. They may not all give you 5 seperate channels but they will all be digital. DTS is just another encoding format like Dolby 5.1. They are all digital.

    Now, from the Kenwood run the monitor out to the TV. You are done. Forget fixed and variable. You will now control everything from the receiver, including the volume. Simply switch the input on the receiver depending on what you are watching.

    * This assumes component connection. You may have S-Video or composite.
     
  4. Ted Lee

    Ted Lee Lead Actor

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    i agree with jason's method. it's easier to run everything to the receiver, then only run one video-cable to the tv. a couple of caveats:

    1. signal degredation - you may want to see if you notice any loss in picture quality by running it through the receiver. chances are you won't...

    2. do you always want to run the sound through the stereo?

    in any case, personal preference takes precedence!
     
  5. Ergin Guney

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    Rich,

    First, to answer your questions directly...

     
  6. Jason Wolters

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  7. Ergin Guney

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    Sorry, I didn't know about model-specific peculiarities. I was talking with the behavior of the typical receiver in mind.
     
  8. PeterOR

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    Hi ...

    My first post here too and it is kinda related. I know NOTHING about all this but decided I wanted a home theatre (Went the whole nine yards with theatre seats and curtains etc looks cool, I'm broke). I have SONY 53" HD and a SONY reviever 550 Watts including 50 W Sub and five 50w micro speakers with soooo many options and selections, I'm lost. The DVD player is a 5 disk Panasonic progressive scan (read up on that) and plays all cd formats and MP3. Wow am I lost for a guy with all these nice toys. Okay ... is it best to run everything through the Reciver? I have component cables (cost me like a fortune) were I could and s-video else where. Is this best? I trashed the cables more or less that came with the system, the sales guy said keep them like you would a spare tire. Can I lengthen my speaker wires by a simple "twist and tape" or do I or should I get some kind of conenctor like marretts in electrical wiring? Is there any lost quality in a spliced speaker wire? Also, I have a S-Vid form my DBS/SAT but the picture is still not great. Is it 'cause I am comparing it to my DVD?

    Thanks ..

    Peter
     
  9. Jason Wolters

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    No problem. For what it's worth, the Kenwood manuals are a wreck. They are very hard to read. Anyway, select the DVD 6 channel with the D-Auto also selected. This is assuming you are using the coaxial connection. If you use the optical you will need to select CD/DVD.
     
  10. Ted Lee

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    hi peter!
    welcome to the forum. sounds like you got some nice toys...now to put them to use!
    to answer your questions:
    running through receiver: it's a personal preference. some like the convenience, others say it'll degrade the signal. i recommend you test and see for yourself.
    cables: yes, you are using the best cables you can. in order of quality: component, s-video, composite.
    speaker wire: do not splice. simple enough.
    if you have specific questions, i'd recommend you post them in a new thread. you're more likely to get responses that are specific to your questions....thread-hopping sometimes doesn't work out well. [​IMG]
     
  11. RichN

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    Thanks for all the suggestions. As with anything else, I guess it comes down to personal preference. As long as I don't blow anything up, I will try it each way (all connections to TV and all connections to receiver) and then let you know which I prefer. The Kenwood manual does say to connect the 5.1 output of a DVD to the 5.1 inputs on the receiver. I just wasn't sure if I needed another connection for anything else. I have a CD player/recorder, so I doubt that I will ever use the DVD for anything but movies (and DVD-audio, when I get rich and famous).

    In regards to Peter's questions. I agree that you want to avoid "splice & tape" as much as possible.

    RichN
     
  12. RichN

    RichN Stunt Coordinator

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    I said I would post an update in regards to my message of last week (1/16).

    I decided to run all my video components directly to the TV, then run the TV Audio Out (instead of Monitor Out) to the Video1 audio L & R inputs of the receiver. I set the TV audio level to "fixed" so I can control the volumn from the receiver, as well as select different "listening modes". I DID however, run the audio from the DVD directly to the 5.1 inputs of my receiver. Everything seems to work correctly and I only have to select one input on my receiver for all my video components, which is simpler than having to select four different ones on BOTH receiver and TV. The 5.1 sounds GREAT on DVD audio disks !!! The only problem I have now is my poor cable reception on some channels. That is a cable company problem however, as one channel looks great and the one next to it is snowy. Fortunately, the snowy ones are things like the Food Network, QVC channel etc, so no great loss.

    Thanks again for all your suggestions.

    RichN
     
  13. Jason Wolters

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    That is how I have mine, Rich. It works best fro me too. Have fun with your HT.
     

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