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The real truth is near the end of the article:

The bottom line is that while media conglomerates like NBCUniversal and WarnerMedia try to negotiate with powerful streaming aggregators like Roku and Amazon, it’s us, the consumers, who miss out. A new streaming service could have the next great piece of entertainment. But if people can’t access it, does any of it matter?
 

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I genuinely don’t understand why Roku feels it is entitled to money for the apps. I mean, do you send the maker of your disc player a check every time you buy a new disc? Do you send the maker of your TV a check every time you watch a new channel? Of course not. Roku makes hardware. You bought the hardware. That should be the end of their financial stake.

Then again, I never understood why broadcast networks felt entitled to payments from cable and satellite providers for over-the-air broadcast channels that are freely available either.
 
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I genuinely don’t understand why Roku feels it is entitled to money for the apps. I mean, do you send the maker of your disc player a check every time you buy a new disc? Do you send the maker of your TV a check every time you watch a new channel? Of course not. Roku makes hardware. You bought the hardware. That should be the end of their financial stake.

Then again, I never understood why broadcast networks felt entitled to payments from cable and satellite providers for over-the-air broadcast channels that are freely available either.
I dropped DirecTV due to rising subscription costs and carriage disputes. Now we are seeing carriage disputes on Roku and Fire OS. Greedy bastards....
 

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I genuinely don’t understand why Roku feels it is entitled to money for the apps. I mean, do you send the maker of your disc player a check every time you buy a new disc? Do you send the maker of your TV a check every time you watch a new channel? Of course not. Roku makes hardware. You bought the hardware. That should be the end of their financial stake.

Then again, I never understood why broadcast networks felt entitled to payments from cable and satellite providers for over-the-air broadcast channels that are freely available either.
It's just the overall business model regardless how we end users feel about it.

The content providers are free to create their own hardware platform(s) and produce and sell their own devices or some other alternative if Roku's really not bringing enough value to justify their asking price.

And we end users are free to choose as well. Just that the Roku + HBO Max combo isn't a choice we have right now.

Nobody can guarantee we'd all (whether content providers, hardware makers, end users) get to have unlimited choices regardless of the impact on other parties.

RE: disc player makers, at least some of them do get kickbacks in format royalties and/or other (indirect) incentives, no? Toshiba hasn't been making BD players for a reason afterall (and it's probably not just because they might be pissed about losing the format war). Some others might find other ways to make it work for them (or not really... as hardware makers seem to typically get the short end of these bizzes as they get commoditized relative to software), but there are no guarantees those apply to Roku.

We don't have to like any of this. And Roku and Warner Media are both taking some risks in all this. Just the nature of the bizz...

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Having not read the whole thread, and since Dallas is a Warner property on HBO Max ? Or would it be on the Warner service?
 
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I gave HBO Max 2 months to resolve a deal with Roku probably 1 month more than I should have. I don't care whose fault it is
I cancelled yesterday and I am done with any service related to HBO in the future.
 
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I'm not a Roku owner. If I were, I'd be replacing it with a Chromecast or Apple TV. Neither of those devices are holding streaming platforms hostage. HBO Max, Peacock and Quibi are all available on both of them.
 

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Pre-click explanation of article for Tino:

HBO MAX, AT&T's big bet on streaming, brought in more than four million subscribers in the month following its May 27 launch, the company announced on Thursday.

 
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I hope HBO Max will work with Google Chromecast- that’s the device I’m thinking about getting to start streaming with.
 

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I hope HBO Max will work with Google Chromecast- that’s the device I’m thinking about getting to start streaming with.
You may be better off with the TIVO streaming stick. Lots of former Roku users have been saying good things about the device. It even supports Dolby Vision HDR (which both Chromecast Ultra and Roku do not).
 

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You may be better off with the TIVO streaming stick. Lots of former Roku users have been saying good things about the device. It even supports Dolby Vision HDR (which both Chromecast Ultra and Roku do not).
Thank you for your recommendation.
 

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Some new titles have been added to HBO Max. I'm thinking some of them are coming to Blu-ray in the near future. Particularly, Flying Leathernecks, The Candidate, Jim Thorpe All-American and maybe one or two Astaire & Rogers musicals.
 
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