George Lucas - out of touch? (1 Viewer)

[Brian_J]

Let's say that in fifty years time, Battlefield Earth is proclaimed to be, in hindsight, the greatest film ever made

Why don't we just suggest that pigs will fly, it would be just as reasonable.

Brian

 

[Dion]

Brian, I think you miss the point slightly. The fact remains that public opinion can (and often does) shift considerably. My attempt at reductio ad absurdum remains valid.

 

[Tim Mauldin]

but in the context of film history they were crap.

I don't give a shit about the "context of film history". The only thing that matters is if I liked the movie or not.

 

[Tom Ryan]

I don't give a shit about the "context of film history". The only thing that matters is if I liked the movie or not.

Thanks for sharing .
-Tom

 

[Tim Mauldin]

Your welcome

 

[Kevin M]

Hey, at least Tim did offer it as an opinion, not fact.

 

[Damin J Toell]

Hey, at least Tim did offer it as an opinion, not fact.

truth is only what society says it is.
DJ

 

[mark_d]

I -love- this thread (well, up until this page).

I wanna see it go on, but please, before any more discussion, agree on a definition of "truth".

FWIW, I've been with Damin. If we move away from the word truth and use the word fact instead...

How can we say cinematography in movie a > movie b?

Directing in movie d < c?

etc.

For example, I thought the tyke playing Ani in TPM was great (acting) but I thought some of the lines he had to deliver were poor (script) but I can not prove any of my opinions. They have no basis in fact. What facts could there be?

Give me a tangible as to why LOTR is better than, say, Mortal Kombat or Krull (both of which had greater entertainment value for me).

Better acting? How do we prove it.

Direction? Prove it.

Mark

 

[Dan Paolozza]

I think trying to relate popular success and quality is pretty foolish.

Aristotle vs. Plato.
I can only imagine how long this argument will go on for...shall we refer our great-grandchildren to this thread in the coming generations?

 

[Damin J Toell]

movie b?
Directing in movie d < c?
etc.

such questions have remained unanswered (or simply run around) since i first asked them. my intuition tells me that anyone who has made such claims thus far is either unwilling or unable to craft a logical defense.
all involved, however, may be inclined to brush up on Hume's 'Of The Standard Of Taste'. i've written pieces arguing against much of it in the past (i especially think he errs with regard to the 'Don Quixote' example), but it is one of the most worthwhile basic texts on the topic, i believe.
DJ

 

[Kevin Matthews]

i wanted to revive this thread because i think it's funny as all hell.

....that's what i like to see, little things...hitting each other!

 

[Paul_D]

But I really did like 2001. I swear. I really did. :frowning:...... (As Paul stumbles for words and starts to question his very existence, the interviewer ask: "Who are you trying to convince?")