DVD-Audio PCM only?

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  1. TomK

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    Some SACD disks are recorded with DSD technology, which to my mind, must be superior to PCM. Are there DVD-Audio disks that are recorded with a digial bitstream?
    I am really anxious to get into either SACD or DVD-Audio, but I keep going around and around.[​IMG]
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  2. Wayne Bundrick

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    DVD-Audio is based on PCM, with Meridian Lossless Packeting compression applied.

    My mind isn't convinced that DSD must be superior to PCM.
     
  3. Ryan Spaight

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    SACDs can come from analog, PCM or DSD masters, but the SACD itself is *always* DSD.

    DVD-A can also come from from an analog, PCM or DSD masters, but the disc itself will *always* be PCM.

    Which is better is the subject of much debate, but I think everyone agrees both are better than CD, which is PCM but much lower-res than DVD-As are capable of.

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    Buy for the music, not for the technology.

    (Sayeth the man with a DVD-A player, so patiently waiting for more titles to be released).

    -JNS
     
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    Amen brother Jagan. I read somewhere on the net that Queensryche Empire is to be released on DVDA in June.
     
  7. Ryan Spaight

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    Ryan said:

     
  9. Ryan Spaight

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    Fair enough -- I knew that there was widespread skepticism about Sony/Phillips' motives, but didn't know so many heard no sonic advantage over CD.
    Heck, it sure sounds better to me on my lousy little system. But I stand corrected that that's a common opinion (that it's better, not that my system is lousy [​IMG]).
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    We'll have to agree to disagree on the interpretation of fair use. IANAL, but in no way that I can see does fair use disallow the use of copy protection or guarantee the availability of copying tools, it simply states that copying for certain purposes is not a punishable offense. Now, you can certainly argue that fair use and the DMCA are at odds, and I wouldn't disagree -- but that's a different kettle of fish.

    As to the second point, if the ability to rip is high on your list of priorities, then clearly you won't be satisfied with DVD-A or SACD. Fair enough. But I enjoyed CD for well over ten years before ripping tools became available, and I see no reason why I can't enjoy other formats that lack ripping tools. If I really want to make a copy for backup or compilation or whatever purposes, the friendly analog outs are always available.

    I understand the point you're making with the Divx comparison, but with Divx we were talking about a format that restricted actual playback, not just a certain form of copying. At least from my perspective, that was a much more objectionable restriction. (As an aside, I do have objections to the Verance watermarking scheme in DVD-A, since that affects playback. You can certainly argue the extent of that effect, but it's there.)

    Ryan
     
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