Details on SACD Super System

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  1. Lee Scoggins

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    Friends,
    Sony is working with several leading high end companies to put together a "super system" for the May HiFi show from Stereophile.
    Here is a link to the full story: http://www.stereophile.com/shownews.cgi?1319
    This looks like a real winner. They had tube Nagra amps on Eggleston speakers last year and it sounded great.
    Lee
     
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    Sounds great, looking forward to hearing it. More cos. should do that type of thing so that a format or component can be heard in a great reference system.
     
  3. John Kotches

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    OTOH Meridian has been demoing a DVD-Audio "Super System" for some time, with the 800+861+DSP 8000 speakers.

    Regards,
     
  4. Lee Scoggins

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    John,
    Yes we know, Bob Stuart is firmly ensconced in the DVDA camp.
    They say hearing is one of the first things to go when you get old [​IMG]
    Just kidding!
    Actually, it would be cool if we could do that test you recommended at the show with master tape, PCM, and DSD.
    I am going to try to seek out a high end DVDA rig at the show for comparison.
    Lee
     
  5. John Kotches

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    Lee,
    Despite your continued assertions to the contrary, it is far from proven that DSD is sonically superiour to high-resolution PCM.
    It has however been demonstrably shown that when looking at the technical performance of the two technologies, High-res PCM performs better in every area except frequency response at the top end. That DSD is all noise in the area where it exceeds high-res in frequency response PCM is an interesting side argument.
    Regards,
     
  6. Joe Casey

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    Guys,

    Haven't you two hashed this out ad nauseum? And the funny thing is that the BEST technology for listening to audio is good 'ol MP3.
     
  7. John Kotches

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    Doh Joe!

    Now why didn't I think of that?

    Regards,
     
  8. Lee Scoggins

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    John,
    Did you wake up on the wrong side of the world today?
    I was joking in my post and then stated that your test of formats versus the masters would be a good one.
    Must you always be so sensitive?
     
  9. Lee Scoggins

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    Joe,
    MP3....[​IMG]
    Lee
     
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    Had some time to kill, and rather than quote more technical charts, I thought some "stats" to these on going debates would be interesting:
    In the DSDA thread, the post count stood at:
    John Kotches: 17
    Lee Scoggins: 17
    combined total: 34
    Other persons: 29
    Total Posts/Thread: 63
    % of Lee/John Debate:54%
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    In the SACD inferior to DVD-A thread, the post count stood at:
    John Kotches: 37
    Lee Scoggins: 28
    combined total: 65
    Other Persons: 100
    Total Posts/Thread: 165
    % of Lee/John Debate:39.5%
    I just thought this was interesting. Maybe you guys should go on Celebrity Boxing or something?
     
  11. Lee Scoggins

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    Brian,
    [​IMG]
    That's pretty good. [​IMG]
    Lee
     
  12. Lee Scoggins

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    Brian,
    Celebrity boxing would be interesting, as I have been kickboxing the past four months [​IMG]
    Lee
     
  13. KeithH

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    More like Celebrity Death Match. [​IMG]
    Lee,
    Thanks for the info. I am sorry I will miss this show, as I will be on vacation. I look forward to reading objective reports of how the demo went.
    MP3? Give me a break. A true audiophile listens to 8-track tape. [​IMG] Actually, I have an 8-track tape player and 20 tapes. [​IMG]
     
  14. John Kotches

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    Keith,
    So you're the person that's snagging up all the 8-tracks on e-Bay?
    Now I know who I'm bidding against [​IMG]
    Regards,
     
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    John, that used to be me. I haven't bought an 8-track tape on eBay in over a year. Back in the fall of 2000, I found an unused Realistic 8-track tape player (player only, not a recorder) on eBay for $30. It came sealed in the original box. My guess is that the player dates back to the early '80s. It's a small player with wood on the sides and top. Over the next few months, I bought 20 8-tracks on eBay. Some were only $1. The highlights were sealed copies of Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon, Eagles Greatest Hits 1971-1975, and Rolling Stones Greatest Hits. I figured they would have some collectible value (especially the Floyd tape), so I haven't opened them. At this time, the player is in the box, but maybe I'll hook it up and start building my tape collection again. [​IMG]
     
  16. Lee Scoggins

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    Friends,
    I have just been reading about the "down rez" possibilities for HDTV. [​IMG]
    Let's all hope that this does not occur on any of the high rez audio formats, regardless of which camp you are in.
    At least the vinyl guys are safe [​IMG]
    Lee
     
  17. Lee Scoggins

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    KeithH,
    That is a collector's item. Both the player and Dark Side-keep it sealed! [​IMG]
    The Japanese will pay thousands of dollars for it!
    Is there an ebay Tokyo?
    Seriously, what I really want are some reel tapes...
    A question: Are laserdiscs the future 8-tracks of the video world?
    I got a closet full.
    Lee
     
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    Lee said:

     
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    Keith,
     

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